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Hi,<br>
<br>
Maybe we should refer to the AC/SO entities that would gain the
member attribute as Statutory Members. If we get into the habit of
refereing to them that way, it might be easier to keep the
difference in mind.<br>
<br>
Or even use a standard explanatory phrase, instead of the simple
noun, until it becomes a bingo term: The AC/SO acting as statutory
members ...<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-Apr-15 19:15, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">James, </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Unfortunately, members
are members, and they are substantively different from
delegates or designators. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sometimes, non-profits
call people "members" who really aren't (e.g., I am not really
a statutory "member" of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, even
though I have a membership card in my wallet). This is
typically allowed by statute. Unfortunately, it doesn't work
the other way around -- there's nothing else to call members,
as far as I know.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So, I think we just
need to be clear that we are contemplating nothing more than
taking the current organizations that participate in ICANN
governance, and making them into the "members." It should be
thought of as a conversion of the current structure (merely
rearranging the current elements) in this instance. New
classes of actors are not being created.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:05 PM, James
M. Bladel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>></span>
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<div>Jordan:</div>
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<div>Good clarification, but it is concerning that this
(mis)conception is being heard outside the ccwg. Could
we do a better job in terms of messaging? Are there
legally and functionally equivalent terms ("delegate")
that are less prone to creating confusion?</div>
<div><br>
Thank you,
<div><br>
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<div>J.</div>
<div>____________</div>
<div>James Bladel</div>
<div>GoDaddy</div>
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On Apr 13, 2015, at 15:15, Jordan Carter <<a
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href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"
target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>>
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<div>dear all
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<div>I just wanted to make a comment as rapporteur
for the community empowerment working party.</div>
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<div>There is some discussion outside our ccwg and
outside our working party that the discussion of
membership as an option to empower the community
could lead to an Individualised membership
system, where interested members of the public
would join ICANN.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That is not right.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>That is not what is on the table.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Membership might be a vehicle to give ICANN's
multi stakeholder community more power within
ICANN. It would do that through structures that
relate to ICANN as it is today, a collection of
constituencies organised through SOs and ACs.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>The organisation will remain a bottom up,
multistakeholder one. The work through SOs and
ACs will continue.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Nobody has proposed sweeping this away and
replacing it with individual membership,
recruitment drives, and so on.</div>
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<div>Trust this helps.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Jordan </div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Jordan Carter </div>
<div>Rapporteur, WP1<span></span></div>
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-- <br>
Jordan Carter<br>
Chief Executive, InternetNZ
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<p>Sent on the run, apologies for brevity<br>
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