<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Paul, that is a new twist to "be careful what you wish for...." :-)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">My bad and poor writing. I actually meant the exact opposite – i.e. that I think we all wish that ICANN continue to NOT have regulatory authority. Apologies to all for the lack of clarity.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Paul Rosenzweig<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">O: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20547-0660" value="+12025470660" target="_blank">+1 (202) 547-0660</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">M: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20329-9650" value="+12023299650" target="_blank">+1 (202) 329-9650</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">VOIP: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20738-1739" value="+12027381739" target="_blank">+1 (202) 738-1739</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563c1">Link to my PGP Key</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/events/us15/register?utm_source=inhouse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=signature-us2015" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="579" height="93" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D076C5.1B806AA0"></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Steve Crocker [mailto:<a href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com" target="_blank">steve@shinkuro.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Rosenzweig Esq<br><b>Cc:</b> Stephen D. Crocker; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Another Twist to Law, Jurisdiction and Accountability<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Paul,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Did you actually say, rephrasing for clarity, “We all will continue to wish for ICANN to have regulatory authority”?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If so, that’s a very strong statement, whose implication is probably not fully understood by everyone and, when understood, may not at all be what everyone wishes for.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Steve<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">All<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As you may know, ICANN recently created the new gTLD .sucks. It appears that the new registry manager, Vox Populi, is charging a rather exorbitant fee of $2500/year for existing trademarks to purchase the relevant domain name in the pre-release Sunrise period. Some have protested to ICANN about this. ICANN’s response is interesting and may have relevance to our accountability discussion. It seems (<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/04/09/the-group-that-created-sucks-now-wants-government-to-keep-it-from-spinning-out-of-control/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/04/09/the-group-that-created-sucks-now-wants-government-to-keep-it-from-spinning-out-of-control/</span></a>) that ICANN has asked the regulatory authorities in the US and Canada to determine whether or not Vox Populi’s pricing is predatory under US and Canadian law (and thus illegal).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I am not at all clear whether ICANN has directed this request to those national authorities because it is where they are located or, more likely, because they are the law specified by the underlying contracts. But it does suggest that, in the absence of regulatory authority for ICANN (which I assume we all will continue to wish for) national laws will continue to play a role. I am not in the least bit sure how this plays into our discussions – but it certainly seems a relevant confounding factor we ought to be aware of<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul Rosenzweig<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Red Branch Consulting, PLLC<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">509 C St. NE<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Washington, DC 20002<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">O: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20547-0660" value="+12025470660" target="_blank">+1 (202) 547-0660</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">M: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20329-9650" value="+12023299650" target="_blank">+1 (202) 329-9650</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">VOIP: <a href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20738-1739" value="+12027381739" target="_blank">+1 (202) 738-1739</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">www.redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.paulrosenzweigesq.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">www.paulrosenzweigesq.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">Link to my PGP Key</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://www.rsaconference.com/events/us15/register?utm_source=inhouse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=signature-us2015" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><image002.jpg></span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</span></a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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