<div dir="ltr"><div>Robin and others</div><div>I also support your idea and proposal that the CCWG and CWG need to coordinate the activities</div><div>Too much pressure . too harsh activities</div><div>too little time to study. too little time to be abale to raise questions and too little time to answer those question</div><div>RUSH RUSH AND RUSH</div><div>Dear co -chairs</div><div>It just does not work</div><div>You push to provide something to public to commentt.</div><div>But what we are cooking is so vague, ambigeous, incomplete and contradictory the the comments would not be productive</div><div>Pls reconsider the pace ,the speed and think of some level but minimum level of acceptable qusality </div><div>We just collect contradictory views and put them together</div><div>Let us review the matter</div><div>There is NO RUSH</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-04-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Roelof Meijer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" target="_blank">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I couldn¹t agree more, very well put<br>
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On 14-04-15 16:44, "Robin Gross" <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>It is important to remember that the transition does not happen until we<br>
>are done. That is the order of events. Not the other way around. We<br>
>are not rushing to meet someone else's deadline because the transition<br>
>cannot occur until we've got consensus and approval of the changes that<br>
>must be made before it can occur. Sometimes we forget that we are the<br>
>driving force in this timeline. Sometimes we think that we must rush to<br>
>meet these dates, but that isn't how this process has actually been set<br>
>up. I agree we need to continue to work quickly, but not because there<br>
>is a limited window in the next 2 weeks to come up a proposal, but<br>
>because we have a window in the next 4-6 months, and we should take that<br>
>time to get it right.<br>
><br>
>Thanks,<br>
>Robin<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Drazek, Keith wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Eberhard,<br>
>><br>
>> I believe the contract WILL be extended.<br>
>><br>
>> I agree content and getting accountability right is paramount.<br>
>><br>
>> I also believe there is a limited window of opportunity to secure a<br>
>>transition.<br>
>><br>
>> Keith<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el@lisse.NA> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear Co-Chairs,<br>
>>><br>
>>> It is a FUNDAMENTAL issue, are we approaching this right or wrong?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think we did this wrong right from the start, and are doing this<br>
>>> wrong. If we are getting this wrong, a transition would not achieve<br>
>>>what<br>
>>> we all want.<br>
>>><br>
>>> There is no deadline which would make the transition fail, they will<br>
>>> just extend the contract.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We must not sacrifice content, under ANY circumstances.<br>
>>><br>
>>> el<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 2015-04-14 13:39, Drazek, Keith wrote:<br>
>>>> [...]<br>
>>>> I am strongly in support of getting accountability reforms<br>
>>>> "right," but I'm also sensitive to a possibly limited window of<br>
>>>> opportunity to secure a transition of IANA stewardship.<br>
>>> [...]<br>
>>><br>
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