<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Malcolm:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yes, counsel has advised on several occasions that unincorporated associations are legal persons under California law.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would note that these are written questions provided directly from counsel (in writing), so there is no "mishearing" possible. Not sure how you could get the idea it was otherwise, given that the advice was signed by Joshua Hofheimer of Sidley.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Malcolm Hutty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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On 22/04/2015 07:07, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:<br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> I am forwarding the answers provided by counsel to the questions raised<br>
> by Chris Disspain.<br>
</span>[...]<br>
<span class="">>> 2. Is it correct that were there to be such a bylaw and the SOs and<br>
>> ACs were to veto the budget or a bylaw change pursuant to that bylaw<br>
>> then the Board of ICANN could ignore that veto and that the SOs and<br>
>> ACs could not enforce the veto?<br>
>><br>
</span>>> * *First, for an SO or an AC to be able to enforce any right<br>
<span class="">>> vis-a-vis ICANN, it would need to be organized as a legal person<br>
>> (such as an unincorporated association).<br>
<br>
</span>A quick check for certainty please: did Counsel advise that<br>
unincorporated associations have legal personality under California law?<br>
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If this was noted down orally, it would have been easy to mishear "such<br>
as an incorporated association", and I wanted to check against that<br>
possibility.<br>
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Unincorporated associations do not have legal personality in English law.<br>
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