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Hi,<br>
<br>
Just checking, do you object to my question and/or the way it was
passed on?<br>
<br>
Personally, I appreciate that it was passed on by the chair of team
that passes things on.<br>
<br>
Also, I can testify that participating in both CWG & CCWG is
not a matter of having "that kind of money ". I can do it becasue I
am mostly unemployed and have no life.<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25-Apr-15 06:11, Dr Eberhard W Lisse
wrote:<br>
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<div>I have about have it with the unappointed participant of a
vested interest making decisions. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Never mind that he just is not entitled to make the ones at
hand. Under the Charter or in any other way! Technically this
triggers billable hours, so even formally it may not withstand
an audit.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yes, read it s objection, for the record.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I repeat my demand for the question whether the USG has in
fact a base for its "claim" (for the lack of a better word) to
the root, and the consequences thereof (if it does not, we have
an idea what this means already, if does, may it transfer it (an
asset (of sorts)) in the manner proposed, and how does all of
this affect (cc)TLDs (when looking at this in chronological
batches).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The absolute only reason I can see to ignore or avoid the
question, is knowing or being concerned about the answer, but
not having this done creates an accountability issue in itself.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I do note, by the way, at last reading of my email the
deafening silence about the conflict between the IPC lobbyist's
statement about what he alleged as to have said in the Legal
SubTeam meeting of 2015-04-08 and the transcript of what he
actually did say.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have no issues with anyone representing anyone's interests
and even as aggressively and flouting rules as Americans
businesses are so admired for all over the world, by the way. If
I had that kind of money I'd also get me one of these onto both
CWG and CCWG and influence the outcome. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Whatever it takes...<br>
<br>
el<br>
--
<div>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</div>
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<div><br>
On Apr 25, 2015, at 03:50, List for the work of
CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
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<div>Holly,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yes, please proceed to answer the questions posed in
Avri's email.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Greg<span></span><br>
<br>
On Friday, April 24, 2015, List for the work of
CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Thanks Greg. I take it that the Legal SubTeam would
like us to add this to the list of questions we are
answering. Holly<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2015 05:54:47 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] [CCWG-ACCT] Nomcom as
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Avri,</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am
forwarding your question to the Legal Sub Team
list.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at
6:51 PM, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@acm.org');"
target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hi,<br>
<br>
I am confused as to how this works. Please
forgive my questions. This has less to do
with the proposal I made then with trying to
understand the nature of a UA. I had not
realized until yesterday that the membership
model was as popular as it has been defined to
be. I had also not realized that we were down
to membership or designator model as our only
choices until today.<br>
<br>
What qualifies the Nomcom as an association?
It can't be the people, as there is no
continuity, except among the staff. and some
overlap in chairs as last year's chair, this
years' chair and next year's possible chair,
sit togehter each year. I guess that is a bit
of natural person continuity. Is that chair
thread significant? <br>
<br>
Or is that it is always formed according to
same bylaw, even if all of the people are
different, that is a qualifying mark? Is being
a differnt instantiation of the same process
sufficient to define a UA, even if there is no
continuity of natural persons?<br>
<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
<br>
avrl<br>
<br>
Note: I would have sent this to the legal
list, but i never managed to get subscribed
that one as far as I can tell.
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