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Hi,<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Does
that help?</span></blockquote>
<br>
Apologies, but I think I remain confused. <br>
<br>
I understand that we still have the ultimate accountability
function.<br>
Still don't know if there is any other power.<br>
<br>
First, as far as I remember, we did not get the Power to force a
decision against complete inaction.<br>
<br>
Also I do not believe that it would be the case that there was
complete inaction. I am sure that the Board would review the
various recommendations of the AOC type review teams. Most reviews
contain many recommendations, and the Board could accept some and
reject others.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">because
once the board has made a decision, we are putting in
accountability mechanisms to question that decision</span></blockquote>
<br>
Do you mean reconsideration and IRP? <br>
<br>
thanks<br>
avri<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26-Apr-15 14:03, Jonathan Zuck
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Avri,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
completely agree that this is new obligation and that it
must find its way into the bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As
for your other question, I think it’s not a question of
giving power to a review team but rather to the community to
induce the board to accept recommendations from a review
team.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To
accomplish that, all we need to do an ensure that the board
actually considers the recommendations and makes a decision
about them, any decision because once the board has made a
decision, we are putting in accountability mechanisms to
question that decision. The whole that currently exist is in
cases of complete
<i>inaction</i> on the part of the board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
best analogy I think can of at the moment is the FTC. The
FTC has the ability to hold companies to their promises.
Getting companies to post privacy policies is the equivalent
of getting them to promise something at which point, they
are then subject to FTC review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Does
that help?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avri Doria<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCWG-ACCT] the pwoer to enforce AOC
type (6.7) recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
In the draft recommendations (6.7.2):<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">Require the ICANN board to approve and
implement review team recommendations, including<br>
recommendations from previous reviews.<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">The final output of all reviews will be
published for public comment.<br>
The Board shall consider approval and begin implementation
within<br>
six months of receipt of the recommendations.<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
We discussed this as a putting a greater obligation onf the
Board than it currently has. But I do not understand how that
is the case. At this point, it is still up to the Board to
agree or not.
<br>
<br>
In responding to a CWG-IANA based question from an NCSG member
on how the IANA Function Review recommendation for a RFP, if
such were to ever happen, would be respected by the ICANN
Board? Couldn't they just ignore it.
<br>
<br>
I did not have a response and am wondering what part of the
community powers I am forgetting.<br>
<br>
This points to the more general question about any
recommendation of an AOC type review.<br>
<br>
Other than the no-confidence removal of the Board (6.6.6. got
to love the numer!), is there anything that gives the AOC-Like
review recommendations the sort of Community powers that we
have discussed having for budgets, strategy & operational
plans (6.6.2) ? Is it possible to include Board rejection of
AOC type review recommendations under the category of decision
that can be overruled by members? Or is that class of decsion
restricted by statute?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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