<div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><br></div><div>Re: RfR and IRP stress test: 'frivolous' and 'abusive' are a very high bar. <div><br></div><div>Most panelists would lean towards hearing a case if this is the threshold. </div><div><br></div><div>Therefore these words will not be effective in deterring dilatory tactics. Something better is needed. <div><div><br></div><div>Also, there are very few existing precedents. Until the pool of cases is large enough there will be many more cases. </div><div><br></div><div>Suggest a larger number of panelists at the start, to decrease as the number of cases becomes less due to increased precedent.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, J. </div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jacob Malthouse<br></div><div>Co-founder & Director, Big Room Inc. </div><div>778-960-6527</div><div><a href="http://www.bigroom.ca/" target="_blank">www.bigroom.ca</a> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 April 2015 at 05:41, Brenda Brewer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org" target="_blank">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" background="cid:image001.gif@01D03418.3BC26740" lang="EN-US" link="#9D454F" vlink="#814E95"><img src="cid:image001.gif@01D03418.3BC26740" width="0" height="0" style="width:0;min-height:0"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear all, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The notes, recordings and transcripts for the </span><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">CCWG Accountability Stress Tests Meeting # 5 on 29 A</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">pril will be available here</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#262626"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52895716" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52895716</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style="margin-top:22.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Action Items<u></u><u></u></span></b></h2><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM - Steve to draft paragraph that takes up three or four points that Mathieu identified </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION - Steve to provide DIY text </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p><h2 style="margin-top:22.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Notes</span></b><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></h2><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><em><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.</span></em><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">1 Review red text<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Red text on p 11 and 16 - Proposed measure to except ICANN from exceeding mission<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Proposed mission statement could be standard of review<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">It would take reconsideration or IRP to trigger it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT - New text to be added quoting standard of review <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">2 Address Mathieu's edits (blue text)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- P3 Stress Test # 9 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Spilling Board would be a potential accountability mechanism but never regarded as useful one i.e. last resort<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT - OK with proposed text <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- p4 Stress Test #11<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Suggestions to remove "mitigation", to use risk mitigation measures", to remove "preventive"<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT - risk mitigation<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">-p7 Stress Test #21<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT Ok with following edit "develop appropriate mechanism<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- p12 Stress test #13<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Standing is available to community. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Is term "appeal" appropriate? <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Suggestion to use reconsideration and IRPs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">We have not identified different standards of review <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> Discourage different standards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> Would not recommend putting standards of review in WS1 work<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Suggestion to remove sentence: standards of review may need to be ajdusted sentene and to include Mathieu's text<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- WS1 - WS2 or future Review panels?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT - Remove sentence: standards of review may need to be ajdusted sentene and to include Mathieu's text. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Frivolous and vexatious: match with what is in the proposal --> frivolous and abusive <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Conclusion cell<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Suggested text: Proposed measures would reduce risk by supermajority requirements and by dismissla of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Individual will have standing but expectation that people use it in way that is accountable to community <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Proposal: Proposed measures would could increase risk of individuals paralyzing ICANN processes, which is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Suggestion to use "overload" <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> Continued usage may paralyze business, not just overload it <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">--> Improperly impede/interfere<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">AGREEMENT - Remove overload and use impede - Improved access to review and redress could allow indivdual to impede ICANN processes, though this is mitigated by dismissal of frivolous or abusive RR and IRPs<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">3. Consider adding management abstract paragraph<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION ITEM - Steve to draft paragraph that takes up three or four points that Mathieu identified </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">4. To help manage public comment process, do it yourself guide to prevent additional stress-tests being added <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Do it yourself to guide current proposed and measures making it clear that community powers we are designing can not prevent external threat (hacker, earthquake etc). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Suggestion to give example of specific concerns and show how that gets translated using buckets we have<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">ACTION - Steve to provide DIY text </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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