<div dir="ltr">Great note. Thanks Greg, all.<div><br></div><div>Jordan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 April 2015 at 16:14, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For the Legal Sub-Team, our two law firms have discussed how to answer Ms. Doria’s questions in a way that opens up two options:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(1) treating the NomCom as an unincorporated association, acting as a designator, appointing directors to the Board, and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(2) treating the NomCom as a Delegate Council, not as an entity but as an internal ICANN process by which delegates from statutory members of ICANN plus non-voting delegates from other stakeholders collectively
elect directors, much as they do now. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The removal process could be virtually the same under either option.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Moving to the Delegate Council option, however, does require attention to the future role of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), which presently has a voting delegate on the NomCom.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2015 3:55 PM<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> Avri Doria; <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" target="_blank">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] [CCWG-ACCT] Nomcom as a UA - legal question<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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I am confused as to how this works. Please forgive my questions. This has less to do with the proposal I made then with trying to understand the nature of a UA. I had not realized until yesterday that the membership model was as popular as it has been defined
to be. I had also not realized that we were down to membership or designator model as our only choices until today.<br>
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What qualifies the Nomcom as an association? It can't be the people, as there is no continuity, except among the staff. and some overlap in chairs as last year's chair, this years' chair and next year's possible chair, sit togehter each year. I guess that
is a bit of natural person continuity. Is that chair thread significant? <br>
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Or is that it is always formed according to same bylaw, even if all of the people are different, that is a qualifying mark? Is being a differnt instantiation of the same process sufficient to define a UA, even if there is no continuity of natural persons?<br>
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thanks<br>
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avrl<br>
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Note: I would have sent this to the legal list, but i never managed to get subscribed that one as far as I can tell.
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