<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks James,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree with your reasoning and I also believe Dr. Lisse’s question is out of scope as per our Charter as it relates to accountability for the administration of the IANA function which is in the scope of the CWG’s work instead.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">León</div>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">El 30/04/2015, a las 2:11, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" class="">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">I had a message asking for clarification off list:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Sam is talking about statutory rights granted to member sunder California statute, a single set of laws to be examined. And these are well understood by our
counsel due to their expertise. These statues are relevant to our work in framing a new legal structure for the AC/SO’s.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Eberhard is talking about statutory rights of ccTLD managers which would be set down under national law of the domicile of the ccTLD manager, potentially hundreds
of sets of laws. I think that anyone can see that this would be a mammoth undertaking by any law firm and may take months or years to come to a wholesome opinion on.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">-James<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class=""> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>James Gannon<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:56 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Dr Eberhard W Lisse; CCWG Accountability<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" class="">directors@omadhina.net</a>; CCWG Accountability<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [Acct-Legal] Question raised on this morning's Legal SubTeam Call<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">Short of a comprehensive analysis of every statute book of every country that has a ccTLD I don’t see how that question can ever be answered in a wholesome
manner.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class="">-James<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">
<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Dr Eberhard W Lisse<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:51 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> CCWG Accountability<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:directors@omadhina.net" class="">directors@omadhina.net</a>; CCWG Accountability<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [Acct-Legal] Question raised on this morning's Legal SubTeam Call<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Is that self evident only to non-lawyers?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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On Apr 30, 2015, at 07:41, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" class="">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Could you please elaborate on how this questions relates to ICANN’s accountability as per our Charter?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">El 30/04/2015, a las 0:57, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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On Apr 30, 2015, at 01:49, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam <<a href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org" class="">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for this questions Sam. I am forwarding them to the legal sub-team list for assignment to the lawyers.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Counsel,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Could you please kindly add these questions to the work in progress so we can have the answers at your earliest convenience and in line with the priorities set?<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">El 29/04/2015, a las 18:25, Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" class="">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">In furtherance to my comments yesterday on the CCWG and in follow up to my comments on the Legal SubTeam call, I request that we receive an answer to the following question:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">Are there any statutory rights that are given to individual members in a membership organization that are difficult to constrain? If so, what are those statutory rights
and to what extent can they modified? For example, if an individual has a statutory right to bring a derivative action (file suit) against the organization, can that individual member’s statutory right to bring such an action be limited to, for example,
areas where the community had already collectively acted and the Board had not followed that action? Or would individual members always be allowed to pursue actions in their own right, even where others in the community might not agree?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">As discussed yesterday on the CCWG call, this is an area where we may need to modify the Stress Test document, and I was not able to get insight into this question on our
legal sub team call today.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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