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Hi,<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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Had not seen the document.<br>
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Very helpful.<br>
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avri<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30-Apr-15 00:14, Gregory L. Colvin
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For the Legal
Sub-Team, our two law firms have discussed how to answer Ms.
Doria’s questions in a way that opens up two options:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(1) treating the
NomCom as an unincorporated association, acting as a
designator, appointing directors to the Board, and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">(2) treating the
NomCom as a Delegate Council, not as an entity but as an
internal ICANN process by which delegates from statutory
members of ICANN plus non-voting delegates from other
stakeholders collectively elect directors, much as they do
now. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The removal
process could be virtually the same under either option.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Moving to the
Delegate Council option, however, does require attention to
the future role of the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF), which presently has a voting delegate on the NomCom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>List for the work of
CCWG-Accountability Legal SubTeam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2015 3:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Avri Doria; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Acct-Legal] [CCWG-ACCT] Nomcom as a UA
- legal question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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am forwarding your question to the Legal Sub Team list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Avri
Doria <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
<br>
I am confused as to how this works. Please forgive my
questions. This has less to do with the proposal I made
then with trying to understand the nature of a UA. I
had not realized until yesterday that the membership
model was as popular as it has been defined to be. I
had also not realized that we were down to membership or
designator model as our only choices until today.<br>
<br>
What qualifies the Nomcom as an association? It can't
be the people, as there is no continuity, except among
the staff. and some overlap in chairs as last year's
chair, this years' chair and next year's possible
chair, sit togehter each year. I guess that is a bit
of natural person continuity. Is that chair thread
significant? <br>
<br>
Or is that it is always formed according to same bylaw,
even if all of the people are different, that is a
qualifying mark? Is being a differnt instantiation of
the same process sufficient to define a UA, even if
there is no continuity of natural persons?<br>
<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
<br>
avrl<br>
<br>
Note: I would have sent this to the legal list, but i
never managed to get subscribed that one as far as I can
tell.
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