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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    So it is an option?<br>
    <br>
    A SOAC can become one<br>
    Or set up a shadow puppet.<br>
    <br>
    And each would be free to pick its own way of doing it.<br>
    <br>
    Also regarding the GAC, is it correct to assume that since they do
    not (s)elect a director, they would not really need a UA if they did
    not wish, as their special status is guaranteed elsewhere in the
    bylaws.<br>
    <br>
    Also is it correct to assume that we have now almost 'decided' that
    UA are at the level of SOAC.  The reference to IPC as a UA confused
    me.  Is that stiill a possiblity that SGs and RALOs might become UAs
    as well if they wished. <br>
    <br>
    Finally with regard to becoming UA, I suppose any ICANN component
    entity, at any level, could become one today if they wished, no
    bylaw prevents it as far as I know.  Is that correct?<br>
    <br>
    thanks<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01-May-15 11:51, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+aOHUSmSyXvNT-kofbo4qLhevuGgj1Dzaj2a-U+RDcjghtkEA@mail.gmail.com"
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Avri,</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This has to do with the
          fact that for certain SOACs, some or all of the current
          "members" may not want or be able to be members of a legal
          entity, much less one located outside their home
          jurisdiction.  Probably not a problem for IPC (which is only a
          piece of a SOAC, but the one I'm best positioned to speak
          to).  More of a problem for GAC and ccNSO.</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Avri
          Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033"> Hi,<br>
              <br>
              A tangent question.<span class=""><br>
                <br>
                <div>On 30-Apr-15 23:41, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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                      style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px"><font
                        color="#000000">Finally, I have to say I
                        disagree with your contention that each SO/ACs
                        would need to become an unincorporated
                        association ("UA") rather than merely create
                        one.  Admittedly, the issue of how each SO/AC
                        can control its "alter ego" has not been fully
                        fleshed out.  However, I believe this was
                        discussed at some length on the legal sub team
                        call and it seems that between the bylaws of the
                        UA and the charter of the SO/AC there should be
                        very tight control by the SO/AC over any actions
                        of the UA.</font></span></div>
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              </span> As a non-member of the legal sub-team, I am
              curuious, why wouldn't one of the SOAC want to just become
              an UA instead of creating an additional entity? What are
              the legal disadvantages of transforming into an UA? As
              opposed to being on.<br>
              <br>
              Or has this already been documented in one of the many
              docs and I just missed it? <br>
              <br>
              thanks<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
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                  avri</font></span><span class=""><br>
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