<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Avri,</div><div>YES and Yes . I fully agree with what you said we just need to mention everywhere referenced " in a multistakeholder button up approach without any refernce to private or public..We are emerging more and more and should refrain to motivate any division or polarisation.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-02 17:28 GMT+02:00 Avri Doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I too agree that the report should take a multistakeholder view that
treats all ICANN stakeholders equally.<br>
<br>
I do not think that it is necessary that that all stakeholders
decide to do things in the same manner, but that the various options
should be open to all stakeholders on an overall equal footing. I do
not believe that all stakeholders have the same roles and
responsibilities in each phase of every operation. But in the
overall process there needs to be a balanced and equal footing.
This is a goal in my view in all Internet Governance (IG)
mechanisms. ICANN is an organization that is closer to doing this
in a open and equal footing manner than most organizations in IG.
I think that it is is important in this Accountabilty work to be
clear about that continuing goal.<br>
<br>
I do not, however, wish to accidentally fall into the pattern where
there is parity between 2 stakeholder grouping: private and public.
Rather we need the full multistakeholder mix. I think we should
mention neither public nor private and just mention the diversity of
stakeholder groups involved in ICANN. The word multistakeholder
should be sufficient.<br>
<br>
avri<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 02-May-15 10:06, Olga Cavalli wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
<div>thanks for the draft.</div>
<div>I support Kavouss comments and suggested edits.</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Olga</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-02 4:35 GMT-03:00 Kavouss
Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>IMPORTANT AND URGENT </div>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Dear co-chairs,</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Thank you very much for your enormous
and tireless efforts to put this
doc. for final comments</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I have had many comments but I could
not finish the edits till now.</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I therefore do not wish to delay the
work.</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">However, I have one VERY IMPORTANT edit
that I raised it in my last
e-mail.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">That edit is relating to a reference to
ICANN or Internet Process as
being «private led <span> </span>multistakeholder”
<span> </span>organization or process.</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">This is a mistake. a big mistake. There
is no such preference to one
category of stakeholder over other categories of
stakeholder (private or public) .</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I raised this matter at one of our call
and asked for deletion of that
term.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">All stakeholder, irrespective being
private, public, and etc. <b>SHALL </b><span> </span>be
treated equally. This issue was raised at
various occasions by NTIA indicating / emphasizing
that no single category of
the stakeholder should benefit from preference over
other categories of
stakeholders .This term was used at very early stage
of the introduction of the
ICANN into the business. Over the time when we
discussed that the process
should be inclusive, democratic, then it was agreed
by everybody that no
category of the stakeholder should have any
preference, what so ever, or should
have <span> </span><span> </span>a preferred
treatment over other categories of
the stakeholders.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">In view of the above, I urge you to <span> </span>kindly
correct such a big mistake which if it
is not corrected would put us in a very delicate
situation that we did not
respect impartiality and neutrality in treating <span> </span>various
categories of the stakeholders.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">There are 4 or 5 times that such a
reference to »private led multistakeholder
are referred to in the doc.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Pls kindly make a simple «find" check
and delete all that. <span> </span>Term in other
part of doc. whenever, so as
reference is maded to multistakeholder there is no
such an incorrect and
discriminative preference.</span></p>
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<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Regards</span></p>
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</font>
<p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal;vertical-align:middle"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Kavouss
</span></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-02 9:01 GMT+02:00
Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>Dear All,</div>
<div>I have not finish edits .I am on page 50.
However, in view of time time constrain, I
have an important edit that is attached.</div>
<div>The same edit should be carried forward
elsewhere throughout the entire document .
please then search for " private sector led
" and DELETE THAT . I mentioned in one of
the call .See Attached doc. </div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>2015-05-02 3:34 GMT+02:00 Samantha
Eisner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org" target="_blank">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">
<div>Thanks Grace. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dear CCWG, </div>
<div>Attached please find some
proposed edits for consideration.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best, </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sam</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From:
</span>Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
</span>Friday, May 1, 2015 at
3:52 PM<span><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To:
</span>Accountability Cross
Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
</span><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
</span>[CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in
3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by
2 May at 01:00 UTC<br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span>
<div>Hi all, </div>
<div>Just a reminder than
edits, comments are due in
approximately 3h. Thank
you to those who sent
edits earlier today. If
you must send late edits,
please send a note to the
Chairs<u> with staff in
copy</u> to give us
notice that your comments
will be delayed. Best to
stick to the deadline, but
we know everyone is
working hard to get this
draft report ready, and
we’d rather get your
comments than not at all.</div>
<div>Have a good weekend, </div>
<div>Grace</div>
<div><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From:
</span>Grace Abuhamad
<<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
</span>Friday, May 1,
2015 at 11:19 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To:
</span>Accountability
Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
</span>Re: V10 DRAFT for
your review by 2 May at
01:00 UTC<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</span>
<div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span>
<div>Dear all, </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We sent the V10
draft report earlier
today (in UTC) but
have been notified
that, in some cases,
the files are too
large to download
from the email
attachments. As a
reminder, the draft
(redline and clean
versions) are posted
on the Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Draft+Report" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Draft+Report</a>. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Looking forward
to receiving your
comments and edits,</div>
<div>Grace</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From:
</span>Grace
Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date:
</span>Thursday,
April 30, 2015 at
9:22 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To:
</span>Accountability
Cross Community
<<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:
</span>V10 DRAFT
for your review by
2 May at 01:00 UTC<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">Dear
all, </div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">Here
attached is
the
CCWG-Accountability
Draft Report
V10. I have
attached a
redline and a
clean version
(in Word and
PDF). </div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">Version
10
incorporates
the
following: </div>
<ul style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">
<li>Changes
from the
CCWG-Accountability
call on
Thursday 30
April at 05:00
UTC</li>
<li>Edits from
legal counsel
(Sidley and
Adler)</li>
<li>Approval
from the
CWG-Stewardship
Chairs/Client
Committee
regarding
incorporation
of
CWG-Stewardship
recommendations</li>
<li>Edits from
Chairs and
Rapporteurs </li>
</ul>
</span>
<div><font color="#ff0000">Please
send your
edits,
comments, etc
to the mailing
list by<b><span style="font-size:16px">Saturday 2 May 01:00 UTC</span></b></font>
<font color="#ff0000" style="font-size:14px">(24h from now)</font>. Staff will incorporate the edits
over the weekend
so as to release
a final version
for Public
Comment on
Monday, 4 May. <i style="font-size:14px">If possible, edits are appreciate in track
changes in the
<u>clean</u>
version so
that they are
<u>clearly
marked and
visible</u>.
</i>There will
be professional
formatting and
copyediting done
before
publication, so
we suggest that
your time my be
best spent by
focusing on the
substance-related
edits. </div>
<span>
<div style="font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:14px">Also,
please
remember to
submit your
feedback
regarding the
XPlane
graphics by
Saturday as
well. Adam
will send a
reminder re:
XPlane. </div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">Almost
there!</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">—
Grace </div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><br>
</div>
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