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<DIV>I agree. We should undertake this effort very soon as time is short.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Keith, why
wouldn’t you – as ICG liaison to the CCWG – bring this to the ICG
table?<BR><BR>Best regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kdrazek@verisign.com
href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">Drazek, Keith</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com
href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">Paul Rosenzweig</A> ; <A
title=Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">'Roelof
Meijer'</A> ; <A title=Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr
href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</A> ; <A
title=accountability-cross-community@icann.org
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=lise.fuhr@difo.dk href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">'Lise
Fuhr'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Re: [CCWG-Advisors] CCWG near
finaldraft proposal</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>I
think Paul’s assessment is accurate. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>We,
the community, will need to develop and recommend a consolidated timeline
addressing all of the work-streams and dependencies (CWG, CCWG, ICG, ICANN
Board, NTIA) to include the implementation phase described by Secretary
Strickling. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>To
begin such an effort, I’d like to suggest a coordination meeting of the
Co-Chairs of the CWG, CCWG and ICG, plus the ICANN Board liaisons from all 3
groups. Perhaps we should also request clarification from NTIA regarding
the time needed for their review and approval process, based on what they’ve
seen so far from the community.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Keith<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Paul Rosenzweig<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 07, 2015 1:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Roelof Meijer'; Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr;
accountability-cross-community@icann.org<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Lise
Fuhr'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Re: [CCWG-Advisors] CCWG near
final draft proposal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A name=_MailEndCompose><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>I
am quite sure Roelof that Strickling means exactly what you said. I think
he would be surprised that you would read it the other way since I think he
would see the “ending of the contract” as the last day on which it is in effect
– which would either be Sept 30 or the date to which the contract is
extended.</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>I
am also pretty sure that what they are looking for is a realistic estimate so
that they only have to do one single extension – not 3 months now and then 3
more and …. In other words he is asking “how long do you REALLY
need?” I will note as well the repeat of the requirement for
“implementation” – so the question is not “will we approve the changes in
Dublin?” which is, to my mind at least, a relatively realistic expectation but
rather “how long after the changes are approved in Dublin will it take for them
to be implemented?” – that is the Bylaws changed; and IRP set up; and whatever
structrures the CCWG and the CWG call for organized and the functions
transferred etc. That seems to me like a much harder and more indefinite
question to answer<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Paul<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Paul
Rosenzweig<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A
href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #0563c1'>paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>O:
+1 (202) 547-0660<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>M:
+1 (202) 329-9650<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>VOIP:
+1 (202) 738-1739<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Skype:
paul.rosenzweig1066<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><A
href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #0563c1'>Link
to my PGP Key</SPAN></A><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> Roelof Meijer [<A
href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 7, 2015 11:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</A>; <A
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>
Lise Fuhr<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Re: [CCWG-Advisors] CCWG near
final draft proposal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>What
surprises me, is that the letter leaves room for (mis)interpretation on the
essential content:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>“<SPAN
style="BACKGROUND: yellow">We have never viewed 30 September as a
deadline</SPAN>, but have stated from the beginning of this process that the
transition planning should proceed to whatever schedule the community sets” is
clear and in line with what Mr. Strickling has publicly stated numerous times.
It suggests implicitely that the contract will be extended if necessary to fit
“whatever schedule the community sets”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>However,
the bit “..please bear in mind that the United States Government will need
sufficient time to evaluate the proposal and that all work items identified …
will need to be implemented <SPAN style="BACKGROUND: yellow">prior to the ending
of the contract.</SPAN>” is not so clear.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>We
probably all assume that “the ending of the contract” refers to either 30
September 2015 or the end date of an (or the last of multiple) extension(s).
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>That
is probably a safe assumption, but I fail to understand why Mr. Strickling did
not insert a sentence to make that absolutely clear to anyone. Something like:
“…prior to 30 September or the date to which the NTIA will extend the present
contract to fit the schedule set by the community”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Roelof<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>From:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Mathieu
Weill <<A
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</A>><BR><B>Reply-To:
</B>Mathieu Weill <<A
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>dinsdag 5 mei 2015 11:13<BR><B>To: </B>"<A
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</A>"
<<A
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</A>><BR><B>Subject:
</B>[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Re: [CCWG-Advisors] CCWG near final draft
proposal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Dear
Colleagues, <BR><BR>FYI attached is the feedback we have received from Jan Aart
Scholte, our independent Advisor. Jan raises some very useful points for our
further deliberations. <BR><BR>I would suggest we count this as "public comment
input #1" and add this to our upcoming public comment analysis tool.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR>Best<BR>Mathieu<BR><BR>--------
Message transféré -------- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Re: [CCWG-Advisors] CCWG near final draft
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<P class=MsoNormal>Sun, 3 May 2015 14:14:43 +0000<o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>De :
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<P class=MsoNormal>Jan Aart Scholte <A
href="mailto:jan.scholte@globalstudies.gu.se">mailto:jan.scholte@globalstudies.gu.se</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Adam Peake <A
href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org">mailto:adam.peake@icann.org</A>,
CCWG-Advisors <A
href="mailto:ccwg-advisors@icann.org">mailto:ccwg-advisors@icann.org</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Dear All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Attached the promised more substantive comments for the CCWG on the draft proposal of 1 May 2015. Really impressive that things have got this far already, though as ever there can be suggestions for going further.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Greetings<o:p></o:p></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Jan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE><PRE><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </PRE></DIV>
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