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    + 1 Keith - well put.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/20/2015 12:44 PM, Drazek, Keith
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hi Chris,</div>
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        <div>I think there's a fundamental flaw in your assessment. You
          appear to be looking at this question through the lens of the
          past and present, where NTIA holds the enforcement function
          ("enforceability") through its ability to rebid and transfer
          the IANA functions contract if the ICANN Board and management
          acts inappropriately. That is the existing and necessary check
          on the Board's decision-making power. </div>
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        <div>Without NTIA in its current role, the community MUST have
          the ability to check the Board's power, and the only way to
          secure that check is to create legal enforceability.
          Otherwise, the Board has ultimate authority, even if its
          decisions are inconsistent with the interests and desires of
          the community ICANN is supposed to serve.</div>
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        <div>You are proposing a transfer of power from NTIA to the
          ICANN Board, which has a fiduciary obligation to first serve
          the interests of the corporation. Alternatively, proponents of
          legal enforceability are in favor of transferring final
          authority to ICANN's multi-stakeholder community. </div>
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        <div>We should all be looking at this through the lens of the
          future, when NTIA no longer holds the tether and is only
          participating through the GAC. How do we, the
          multi-stakeholder community, ensure that ICANN and its future
          Boards and management are truly accountable once the NTIA
          back-stop is gone? </div>
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        <div>The answer is to ensure the Board's decisions, in very
          limited areas, can be challenged and overturned by a
          significant majority of the community. We need to protect
          against the "catastrophic" scenario you referenced. According
          to our independent legal advisors, the best (and perhaps only)
          way to guarantee this is through legal enforceability. </div>
        <div><i><br>
          </i></div>
        <div>You asked, <i>"</i><span style="background-color: rgba(255,
            255, 255, 0);"><i>Is addressing this most unlikely scenario
              worth the significant structural changes a membership
              model would require?"
            </i>I believe the answer is yes. Not only worth it, but
            necessary.</span></div>
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        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div>Keith</div>
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          On May 20, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Chris Disspain &lt;<a
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          <div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px;
              color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">For clarity, the last sentence
              of paragraph 8 below should read:
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              <div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68,
                  68);">"However, </span><font class="" color="#444444">I
                  cannot think of a single</font><span class=""
                  style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> example of a failure
                  throughout the history of ICANN that did result or
                  would have resulted in the community acting as one
                  against an action or decision of the ICANN Board."</span><br
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                  <p class="p2">Cheers,</p>
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                  <p class="p2">Chris</p>
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                    <div class="">On 20 May 2015, at 16:13 , Chris
                      Disspain &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" class="">ceo@auda.org.au</a>&gt;
                      wrote:</div>
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                            class="" color="#444444">Jordan, All,<o:p
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                            class="" color="#444444">Thank you Jordan,
                            for attempting to bring some focus to the
                            current discussion about the UA model,
                            membership structures and all of the related
                            issues.<o:p class=""></o:p></font></div>
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                            class="" color="#444444">First of all, I
                            want to acknowledge that I concur with you
                            on a number points.<o:p class=""></o:p></font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
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                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">I agree that we
                            need to develop a model that disrupts
                            ICANN’s operation as little as possible. We
                            can argue about how much disruption is
                            either possible or preferable, but the
                            principle is agreed. <o:p class=""></o:p></font></div>
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                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">I also agree that
                            levels of accountability are not “up to
                            scratch” and, irrespective of the model we
                            arrive at post-transition, these need to be
                            improved. </font><span class=""
                            style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">Many of the
                            improvements proposed by the CCWG: to the
                            IRP, reconsideration mechanisms and the role
                            of the ombudsman, the introduction of
                            fundamental bylaws and binding arbitration,
                            and the empowerment of the community to
                            spill the ICANN Board, are also supported.</span><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> </span></div>
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                            class="" color="#444444"> </font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">However, where I
                            disagree with you is in respect to the
                            absolute need for an <i class="">additional</i> mechanism,
                            to supersede the current IANA functions
                            contract, in order to ensure that the
                            community can ‘control’ the Board because it
                            has the right to bring a legal action in a
                            US court.</font><span class="" style="color:
                            rgb(68, 68, 68);"> </span></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444"> </font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">I disagree with the
                            characterisation that the purpose of the
                            CCWG’s work is to wrest “control” from the
                            ICANN Board and deliver it to the
                            community. </font><span class=""
                            style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">From your
                            email, I gather that you are fundamentally
                            tying the concept of control to
                            “enforceability”, neither of which are goals
                            for the current process. </span><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">Rather,
                            I believe we are aiming to deliver a
                            structure where ICANN and its </span><font
                            class="" color="#444444">Board </font><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">are
                            held accountable to the community, via the
                            number of improvements I mentioned above.</span></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444"> </font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">The need to assert
                            absolute “control” or enforceability could
                            only arise in the most catastrophic of
                            circumstances. </font><span class=""
                            style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">If we assume
                            a situation where proposed mechanisms for
                            escalation, independent review,</span><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> </span><i
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">binding </i><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">arbitration
                            and direct instruction by the SOs and ACs
                            are not acknowledged by ICANN, wouldn’t the
                            entire multi-stakeholder model be
                            irreparably broken?  </span><span class=""
                            style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">Is
                            addressing this most unlikely scenario worth
                            the significant structural changes a
                            membership model would require?  </span></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444"> </font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">Further, you refer
                            to a “long list” of community concerns about
                            ICANN’s current operations. </font><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">I
                            wonder whether these concerns are actually
                            held by individuals (or individual
                            constituencies) on particular issues and
                            have been aggregated in to a larger picture
                            of overall community dissatisfaction? </span><font
                            class="" color="#444444">Concerns by
                            distinct groups on particular topics can
                            certainly be dealt with by the increased
                            robustness proposed to ICANN’s bylaws and
                            operations.<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><span
                            class="" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">However, </span><font
                            class="" color="#444444">I cannot think of a
                            single</font><span class="" style="color:
                            rgb(68, 68, 68);"> example of a failure
                            throughout the history of ICANN that did
                            result or would have resulted in the
                            community as one against an action or
                            decision of the ICANN Board. </span></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444"> </font></div>
                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">To be clear – I am
                            100% supportive of improvements to
                            accountability. I believe that the CCWG has
                            initiated extremely useful work in
                            identifying these mechanisms.</font></div>
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                        <div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font
                            class="" color="#444444">I remain
                            unconvinced regarding the argument that
                            accountability=control=enforceability, and
                            the subsequent recommendations of the CCWG
                            that arise from this assumption.</font></div>
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                            Chris</div>
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                            <div class="">On 20 May 2015, at 15:33 ,
                              Jordan Carter &lt;<a
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                                href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"
                                class="">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;
                              wrote:</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">We need legal
                                persons to be members of ICANN.
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                                </div>
                                <div class="">They can be individual
                                  humans or they can be organisations.</div>
                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                </div>
                                <div class="">UAs are the lightest
                                  touch, most easily controlled,
                                  non-human form of person that can fit
                                  this mould.</div>
                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                </div>
                                <div class="">I do not understand the
                                  propensity of parts of our community
                                  to over-complicate things that look
                                  reasonably straight forward from other
                                  points of view. Has ICANN always been
                                  like this? (Answers own question - it
                                  can't have been, otherwise it would
                                  never be organised the way it is
                                  today....)</div>
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                                <div class="">cheers</div>
                                <div class="">Jordan</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On 20 May 2015
                                  at 17:21, Alan Greenberg<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
                                    dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
                                      target="_blank" class="">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>&gt;</span><span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br
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                                    Avri, I think that you are generally
                                    correct. We are putting this entire
                                    infrastructure in place because we
                                    want to be able to take ICANN or the
                                    Board to court if they do not follow
                                    the rules. I tend to agree with the
                                    auDA comment that if it ever gets to
                                    that stage, we are REALLY in
                                    trouble, and a simple court decision
                                    is not likelt to fix it.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    But that nothwithstanding, we
                                    supposedly ned that UA because they
                                    can take legal action. But if the UA
                                    representatives do not listen to the
                                    SO/AC. the SO/AC cannot take that
                                    rep to court, because the SO/AC has
                                    no legal persona. So we are again
                                    left with a discontinuity where
                                    something is largely unenforceable
                                    and we have to take it on faith that
                                    they will do the right thing.<br
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                                    Of course, the UA reps and the Board
                                    members we select are basically
                                    drawn from the same pool, perhaps
                                    separated by a few years.<br
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                                    The difference between a Board
                                    member and a UA rep is the Board
                                    member has a duty to the
                                    corporation, and the UA rep can, in
                                    theory, be required to take
                                    instruction from the SO/AC. But
                                    enforcing that theory may be the
                                    rub.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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                                        Alan</font></span>
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                                        At 20/05/2015 12:41 AM, Avri
                                        Doria wrote:<br class="">
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                                          Hi,<br class="">
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                                          I think I understand the
                                          argument about members
                                          becoming that to which<br
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                                          ICANN, and its Board, are
                                          responsible and accountable.
                                          From that<br class="">
                                          perspective it sounds really
                                          good.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          What I have having trouble
                                          understanding is an
                                          accountability structure<br
                                            class="">
                                          were there is a discontinuity
                                          between the SOAC and the UA. 
                                          If each of<br class="">
                                          the Board designating SOAC
                                          were the UA, it think I would
                                          understand.<br class="">
                                          But I just do not see how the
                                          UA are accountable to the
                                          people and<br class="">
                                          organizations that participate
                                          in each of the SOAC. Yes, the
                                          SOAC<br class="">
                                          designates it UA
                                          representative, but how is
                                          (s)electing one of these any<br
                                            class="">
                                          more accountable than
                                          (s)electing the Board as we do
                                          now.  Don't we just<br
                                            class="">
                                          move the perceived/possible
                                          unaccountability down a layer
                                          in the hierarchy?<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          I think I am as comfortable
                                          with complexity as the next
                                          person.  And I<br class="">
                                          understand how in computer
                                          science any problem can solved
                                          by adding<br class="">
                                          another layer of indirection,
                                          but in this case the extra
                                          layer we are<br class="">
                                          creating does not seem to
                                          really be accountable to
                                          anyone but itself,<br class="">
                                          except by (s)election
                                          procedures.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          I am sure I am missing some
                                          critical bit of understanding
                                          and hope<br class="">
                                          someone can explain the chain
                                          of accountability in the
                                          membership<br class="">
                                          model.  I feel that we are
                                          still hand-waving a bit in the
                                          explanations.<br class="">
                                          In a sense it seems as if we
                                          are creating a 'council' that
                                          is omnipotent<br class="">
                                          in the powers it is given,
                                          except that they can somehow
                                          be replaced.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Thanks and apologies for my
                                          persistent confusion.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          avri<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          On 20-May-15 01:14, Jordan
                                          Carter wrote:<br class="">
                                          &gt; Hi all<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; This thread is useful to
                                          tease out some of the
                                          questions and concerns<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; and confusions with the
                                          UA model, and as rapporteur
                                          for the WP<br class="">
                                          &gt; responsible for refining
                                          this part of the proposal I am
                                          reading it avidly.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; I just want to take the
                                          opportunity to remind us all
                                          why membership<br class="">
                                          &gt; (or something analogous)
                                          is an important aspect of the
                                          reforms we are<br class="">
                                          &gt; proposing - no matter the
                                          precise details.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; At the moment without
                                          members, ICANN is
                                          fundamentally controlled by<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; the Board. The only
                                          external constraint is the
                                          IANA functions contract<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; with NTIA. The long list
                                          of community concerns and
                                          examples detailed<br class="">
                                          &gt; by our earlier work in
                                          this CCWG shows that even with
                                          that constraint,<br class="">
                                          &gt; accountability isn't up
                                          to scratch.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; We are working on a
                                          settlement without that NTIA
                                          contract.<br class="">
                                          &gt; Accountability has to get
                                          better even *with* the
                                          contract.<br class="">
                                          &gt; Fundamentally better,
                                          without it.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; Either we have a
                                          membership structure or some
                                          other durable approach<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; that firmly embeds the
                                          stewardship of ICANN and the
                                          DNS in the ICANN<br class="">
                                          &gt; community, or... we
                                          remain with Board control.<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; Given ICANN's history,
                                          anyone who is advocating a
                                          continuation of<br class="">
                                          &gt; Board control is arguing
                                          for a model that can't be
                                          suitably<br class="">
                                          &gt; accountable, and that
                                          seems highly likely to fail
                                          over time, with real<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; risks to the security and
                                          stability of the DNS.<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; A real, fundamental
                                          source of power over the
                                          company absent the<br class="">
                                          &gt; contract *has* to be
                                          established. The membership
                                          model is the most<br class="">
                                          &gt; suitable one to achieve
                                          that that we have considered
                                          so far.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; So: we need to be
                                          creative and thoughtful in how
                                          we make that model<br class="">
                                          &gt; work in a fashion that
                                          disrupts ICANN's general
                                          operation as little as<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt; possible. But the key
                                          there is "as possible." Real
                                          change is needed<br class="">
                                          &gt; and much refinement and
                                          comment is needed.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; If there are proposals to
                                          achieve the same shift in
                                          control from ICANN<br class="">
                                          &gt; the corporation to ICANN
                                          the community, I hope they
                                          come through in<br class="">
                                          &gt; the comment period. So
                                          far, none have - but there are
                                          still two weeks<br class="">
                                          &gt; of comments to go.<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; cheers<br class="">
                                          &gt; Jordan<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt; On 20 May 2015 at 10:45,
                                          Malcolm Hutty &lt;<a
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                                            class="">
                                          &gt; &lt;mailto:<a
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                                            target="_blank" class="">malcolm@linx.net</a>&gt;&gt;
                                          wrote:<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     This whole thread
                                          seems to have massively
                                          overcomplicated the<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     question.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     Unless I have missed
                                          something, the only reason we
                                          need "members"<br class="">
                                          &gt;     is to<br class="">
                                          &gt;     stand as
                                          plaintiff-of-record in a
                                          lawsuit against the ICANN
                                          Board<br class="">
                                          &gt;     complaining that the
                                          Board has failed to adhere to
                                          the corporations<br class="">
                                          &gt;     bylaws. Such a
                                          lawsuit would in reality be
                                          conducted by an SO or<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     AC, but<br class="">
                                          &gt;     a person with legal
                                          personality needs to act as
                                          plaintiff-of-record.<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     Why not simply
                                          proceed, as Samantha
                                          suggested, with the SOACs'<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     Chairs as<br class="">
                                          &gt;     the members of the
                                          corporation? Could the
                                          Articles (or Bylaws, as<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     appropriate) not
                                          simply identify the SOACs'
                                          Chairs as the members, ex<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     officio and pro
                                          tempore?<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     An SOAC Chair that
                                          refused to act as
                                          plaintiff-of-record when
                                          required<br class="">
                                          &gt;     to do so by his SOAC
                                          could simply be replaced.
                                          Likewise a Chair that<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     went rogue and
                                          initiated a lawsuit without
                                          their consent.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     You can't make the
                                          SOAC a member without turning
                                          them into UAs,<br class="">
                                          &gt;     with all<br class="">
                                          &gt;     the attendent
                                          complexity. But I don't see
                                          that there should be any<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     such<br class="">
                                          &gt;     problem with
                                          designating the chair of a
                                          SOAC, who will be a natural<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     person, as a member
                                          of the corporation; the fact
                                          that the SOAC is<br class="">
                                          &gt;     not a<br class="">
                                          &gt;     UA is then
                                          irrelevant.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     In the event that
                                          there were any dispute as to
                                          whether a particular<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     person is in truth an
                                          SOAC Chair, this would surely
                                          be a simple<br class="">
                                          &gt;     preliminary matter of
                                          fact for the court. It is
                                          surely beyond dispute<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     that if the Articles
                                          designated "Alan Greenberg" as
                                          the member, it<br class="">
                                          &gt;     would<br class="">
                                          &gt;     be a matter of fact
                                          as to whether or not the
                                          person before the<br class="">
                                          &gt;     court was<br class="">
                                          &gt;     indeed Alan
                                          Greenberg; surely it is the
                                          same as to whether the person<br
                                            class="">
                                          &gt;     before the court is
                                          "the current Chair of ALAC",
                                          if that should be<br class="">
                                          &gt;     what<br class="">
                                          &gt;     is specified in the
                                          Articles?<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
                                          &gt;     Malcolm.<br class="">
                                          &gt;<br class="">
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Matthew Shears
Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
Center for Democracy &amp; Technology (CDT)
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