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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 12 June 2015 09:35 PM,
Drazek, Keith wrote:<br>
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Becky,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
think you highlight a key point.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Currently,
NTIA and the California Attorney General are the only
enforcement bodies ensuring ICANN remains committed to its
bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
membership structure would give some of that authority to
the ICANN community through its existing structures -- the
SOs and ACs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Isn’t
that the definition of transitioning the United States
government (in its various forms) out of its unique role?
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Being at definitional matters; in my understanding, the definition
of 'transitioning the US government (in its various forms) out if
its unique role' is that the US government, and its agencies, have
no role that is not equivalent to that of any other government and
its agencies. That has always been the intent and purpose of the
long standing global demand for getting rid of US's unilateral
oversight over ICANN.<br>
<br>
A wrong definition of the problem obviously leads to wrong
solutions, as is happening currently with the 'transition process'.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After
NTIA disengages, don’t we want the community to have shared
authority for enforcement, </span></p>
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As you mention in an earlier part of your email, with community you
of course mean 'ICANN community'. Whatever be the intention of the
'ICANN community', even NTIA's announcement asked for the oversight
to pass to 'global multistakeholder community' and not to the 'ICANN
community'. Now if the 'ICANN community' being in charge of running
the transition process appropriates that new (partly) transitioned
oversight role to itself, it is perhaps an understandable human
failing, but that would normally be called as an illegitimate
capture. <br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">rather
than leaving it to the California Attorney General alone?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2015 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Roelof Meijer; Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo -
Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">shi</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As
I understand it, Courts view the bylaws as a contract
between a corporation and its members/shareholders.
If ICANN has no members, the bylaws are not a
contract with anyone, so the only party with authority
to enforce would be the Attorney General. (As
discussed elsewhere, this is extremely unlikely to
happen outside of a fraud/corruption situation.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The
fact that members of SO’s are legal entities doesn’t
change this. Unless they are members of ICANN, they
are not a party to the bylaws “contract.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">J.
Beckwith Burr</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Roelof
Meijer <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 12, 2015 at 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Accountability Community <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo -
Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
all, and especially dear legal colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The
memo states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">"</span><span
style="color:black">If there were a dispute
between ICANN and an SO/AC, the parties could
agree to an IRP and binding arbitration, but t<span
style="background:yellow">here would be no
mechanism to restrain ICANN from acting
contrary to these decisions</span>, nor would
there be a mechanism to challenge an arbitration
decision that exceeded the scope of authority of
the arbitration panel, outside an unlikely,
independent intervention by the California
Attorney General. "</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I understand
that the SO/AC’s, not being legal entities,
cannot take legal action to enforce. However,
does that really equal "</span><span
style="color:black">no mechanism to restrain
ICANN from acting contrary to these
decisions”?</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Most
members of SO’s are legal entities, many
members of AC’s are too, couldn’t those
members, being affected parties, individually
or collectively take legal action?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Alternatively,
I would assume that before the ultimate step
of talking legal action against ICANN, the
community will have escalated through its
powers and thus has completed the procedure to
recall the entire board. The power to recall
the entire board will have to be combined with
the power to in one way or another appoint an
interim board. So, the community, through due
process, recalls the board. The board, in
contradiction with the bylaws, refuses “to
go”. The community has recalled the board and
thus, through the defined process (also in the
bylaws), appoints an interim board. According
to the bylaws, this interim board is now the
legal representative of ICANN. And can take
the required legal action (if necessary) to
force the “old” board to go away and get lost.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Would
one of these two work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Roelof
Meijer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><Hofheimer>,
"Joshua T." <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>donderdag 11 juni 2015 06:09<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Cc: </b>Sidley ICANN CCWG <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>>,
ICANN-Adler <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised
Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear
Legal Sub-Team,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Further
to the CCWG request on the call last Friday,
attached is a memo revising the summary chart
describing the viability of the enumerated
powers under the three models – Member model,
Designator Model and Voluntary Model. We also
explore the impact of not having the SO/ACs
organized legal persons to represent their
interests.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Josh</span><span
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<b>Subject:</b> [Acct-Legal] Memo -
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