<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Mathieu, Keith</div><div>Referring to Californian Attorney role, pls clarify in which domain that authority to be shared with community?</div><div>I hope we are not proposing to share any responsibility which are outside the </div><div> Our activities</div><div>Kavouss <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 12 Jun 2015, at 19:18, Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Very interesting point Keith.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
Becky,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
think you highlight a key point.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Currently,
NTIA and the California Attorney General are the only
enforcement bodies ensuring ICANN remains committed to its
bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
membership structure would give some of that authority to
the ICANN community through its existing structures -- the
SOs and ACs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Isn’t
that the definition of transitioning the United States
government (in its various forms) out of its unique role?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After
NTIA disengages, don’t we want the community to have shared
authority for enforcement, rather than leaving it to the
California Attorney General alone?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2015 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Roelof Meijer; Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo -
Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Roelof,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">shi</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As
I understand it, Courts view the bylaws as a contract
between a corporation and its members/shareholders.
If ICANN has no members, the bylaws are not a
contract with anyone, so the only party with authority
to enforce would be the Attorney General. (As
discussed elsewhere, this is extremely unlikely to
happen outside of a fraud/corruption situation.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The
fact that members of SO’s are legal entities doesn’t
change this. Unless they are members of ICANN, they
are not a party to the bylaws “contract.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">J.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Roelof
Meijer <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 12, 2015 at 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Accountability Community <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo -
Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
all, and especially dear legal colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The
memo states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">"</span><span style="color:black">If there were a dispute
between ICANN and an SO/AC, the parties could
agree to an IRP and binding arbitration, but t<span style="background:yellow">here would be no
mechanism to restrain ICANN from acting
contrary to these decisions</span>, nor would
there be a mechanism to challenge an arbitration
decision that exceeded the scope of authority of
the arbitration panel, outside an unlikely,
independent intervention by the California
Attorney General. "</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I understand
that the SO/AC’s, not being legal entities,
cannot take legal action to enforce. However,
does that really equal "</span><span style="color:black">no mechanism to restrain
ICANN from acting contrary to these
decisions”?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Most
members of SO’s are legal entities, many
members of AC’s are too, couldn’t those
members, being affected parties, individually
or collectively take legal action?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Alternatively,
I would assume that before the ultimate step
of talking legal action against ICANN, the
community will have escalated through its
powers and thus has completed the procedure to
recall the entire board. The power to recall
the entire board will have to be combined with
the power to in one way or another appoint an
interim board. So, the community, through due
process, recalls the board. The board, in
contradiction with the bylaws, refuses “to
go”. The community has recalled the board and
thus, through the defined process (also in the
bylaws), appoints an interim board. According
to the bylaws, this interim board is now the
legal representative of ICANN. And can take
the required legal action (if necessary) to
force the “old” board to go away and get lost.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Would
one of these two work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Roelof
Meijer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><Hofheimer>,
"Joshua T." <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>donderdag 11 juni 2015 06:09<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ccwg-accountability5@icann.org">ccwg-accountability5@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Sidley ICANN CCWG <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com">sidleyicannccwg@sidley.com</a>>,
ICANN-Adler <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ICANN@adlercolvin.com">ICANN@adlercolvin.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised
Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear
Legal Sub-Team,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Further
to the CCWG request on the call last Friday,
attached is a memo revising the summary chart
describing the viability of the enumerated
powers under the three models – Member model,
Designator Model and Voluntary Model. We also
explore the impact of not having the SO/ACs
organized legal persons to represent their
interests.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Josh</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hilton, Tyler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2015 8:29 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Acct-Legal] Memo -
Responses to CCWG GAC Questions</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Dear Legal Sub-team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Attached please find a memo
responding to the list of questions from the
Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) provided
to us on June 5, 2015.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Associate</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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