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<div>If only ICANN history bore this out. It's one thing to assert this notion of “social accountability" and it is another to document it. ICANN as an institution has systematically resisted real accountability for years and no amount of “social shaming" (at
the public forum for example) has made a bit of a difference. The ONLY instances of real movement (however minor) towards accountability have been with the resistance of the organization and in the context of the role played by the USG. As I mentioned this
morning, the two instances have been the AoC in 2009 and the current expiration of the IANA functions contract.
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<div>Every other effort at accountability (and I don't just mean opportunities to advise), has led nowhere. “Social enforcement" has been an unmitigated failure. <br>
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<div dir=""><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: "Verdana"; font-size: 13px;">Roelof,
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<div>Exceptionally well put!<br>
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<div>On 20 Jun 2015, at 03:38 , Roelof Meijer <<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" target="_parent">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">"</font><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">I believe ultimate authority must be with ICANN’s global multi-stakeholder community through its current and future SO-AC structures.</span><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;">”</span></font></div>
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<div>I<font class="Apple-style-span"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-family: Calibri;"> fully share that belief. Where we differ is that you feel that authority will have to be legally enforceable. </font>I<font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><font face="Calibri"> belief
that is unnecessary (and introduces all kinds of unwanted side effects), because it is "socially enforceable</font>”<font face="Calibri"> (for lack of a better term; see my "</font></font></font><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> </span><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">that
board would be paralyzed in all ways, face shame and defamation individually on a global scale and would ruin their personal careers completely”)</font></div>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><Drazek>, Keith Drazek <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_parent">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>vrijdag 19 juni 2015 15:11<br>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Roelof Meijer <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl" target="_parent">roelof.meijer@sidn.nl</a>>, Alan Greenberg <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_parent">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>,
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<<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>RE: [CCWG-ACCT] [Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">You believe that a future Board would never reject the community’s will. I believe it’s a possibility we need to protect against.</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">You’re willing to rely on trust in a future, unknown Board. I believe we need to ensure future communities have the tools to hold the Board accountable.</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">You’re willing to leave ultimate authority with the Board. I believe ultimate authority must be with ICANN’s global multi-stakeholder community through its current and
future SO-AC structures.</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">In the spirit of consensus-building, I hope we’re able to find a way to bridge these gaps. I believe we can.</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Roelof Meijer [<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" target="_parent">mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, June 19, 2015 9:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Alan Greenberg; Drazek, Keith; Chris Disspain<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Alan Greenberg <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_parent">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>dinsdag 16 juni 2015 04:09<br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Roelof Meijer <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:roelof.meijer@sidn.nl" target="_parent">roelof.meijer@sidn.nl</a>>, Keith Drazek <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_parent">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>,
Chris Disspain <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_parent">ceo@auda.org.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">This tends to pretty well correlate with the position that most in the ALAC have supported.<br>
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At 15/06/2015 03:03 AM, Roelof Meijer wrote:<br>
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I wonder if with "If a future ICANN Board were to jump the tracks, the community will no longer have the NTIA backstop. Without legal enforceability, the community would have to trust future ICANN Boards and trust future California Attorney Generals. “ you’re
not oversimplifying or over-contrasting between the situation with legal enforceability and without.<br>
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I think that in a situation where the board “jump the track”, the community ultimately goes through its process to spill the board and the board refuses to go, that board would be paralyzed in all ways, face shame and defamation individually on a global scale
and would ruin their personal careers completely.<br>
They would dimply not do that.<br>
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From: <Drazek>, Keith Drazek <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_parent">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
Date: zondag 14 juni 2015 03:52<br>
To: Chris Disspain <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_parent">ceo@auda.org.au</a>><br>
Cc: "<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
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NTIA's current enforcement powers are indirect but very real. Through its existing ability to re-bid the IANA Functions contract, NTIA ensures that ICANN and its Board of Directors remain true to its bylaws. That unique role is set to change.<br>
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If a future ICANN Board were to jump the tracks, the community will no longer have the NTIA backstop. Without legal enforceability, the community would have to trust future ICANN Boards and trust future California Attorney Generals. Why shouldn't we instead
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If a future ICANN community were to try to spill the board, wouldn't we want that consensus decision to be legally enforceable? Or do we want to allow a future Board to tell the community it was wrong and, claiming fiduciary responsibility to the corporation,
reject the decision?<br>
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Ultimately, we're deciding whether authority should rest with the ICANN Board and the California AG, or with the ICANN community and the California AG.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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I'm in favor of the latter.<br>
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On Jun 13, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Chris Disspain <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_parent">ceo@auda.org.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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I was specifically responding to Keith’s point so hardly a non-sequitur.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">On 14 Jun 2015, at 02:29 , Paul Rosenzweig <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>>
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We need more formal powers for the community because much of the power of the NTIA was informal. The only thing that could replace the NTIA precisely would be the NTIA. I get that you don't like the membership model. But asking why a non-governmental solution
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Friday, 12 June 2015, 11:12PM -04:00 from Chris Disspain <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_parent">ceo@auda.org.au</a>>:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">1. on Becky’s comment below: if that is correct then surely the same applies to the relationship between the SO/AC and its Unincorporated Association. If a court cannot enforce a Board spill
by the SOs/ACs then a court can also not make the UA do what the SO or AC wants. Can it?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">2. on Keith’s comment below: How does the NTIA currently have powers of enforcement over ICANN outside of matters covered in the IANA contract? If NTIA was/is prepared to enter into an Affirmation
of Commitment with ICANN which can be terminated by either party and is not legally enforceable, why should we insist on a higher standard?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Cheers,<br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Chris<br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">On 13 Jun 2015, at 02:05 , Drazek, Keith <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:kdrazek%40verisign.com" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Thanks Becky,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">I think you highlight a key point.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Currently, NTIA and the California Attorney General are the only enforcement bodies ensuring ICANN remains committed to its bylaws.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">The membership structure would give some of that authority to the ICANN community through its existing structures -- the SOs and ACs.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Isn’t that the definition of transitioning the United States government (in its various forms) out of its unique role?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">After NTIA disengages, don’t we want the community to have shared authority for enforcement, rather than leaving it to the California Attorney General alone?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Regards,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Keith</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces%40icann.org" target="_parent">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces%40icann.org" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Burr, Becky</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 11:07 AM</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">To: Roelof Meijer; Accountability Cross Community</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">shi</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">As I understand it, Courts view the bylaws as a contract between a corporation and its members/shareholders. If ICANN has no members, the bylaws are not a contract with anyone, so the only party
with authority to enforce would be the Attorney General. (As discussed elsewhere, this is extremely unlikely to happen outside of a fraud/corruption situation.)</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">The fact that members of SO’s are legal entities doesn’t change this. Unless they are members of ICANN, they are not a party to the bylaws “contract.”</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">J. Beckwith Burr</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">From: Roelof Meijer <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:Roelof.Meijer%40sidn.nl" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Date: Friday, June 12, 2015 at 8:18 AM</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">To: Accountability Community <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:accountability-cross-community%40icann.org" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] FW: [Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Dear all, and especially dear legal colleagues,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">The memo states:</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">"If there were a dispute between ICANN and an SO/AC, the parties could agree to an IRP and binding arbitration, but there would be no mechanism to restrain ICANN from acting contrary to these
decisions, nor would there be a mechanism to challenge an arbitration decision that exceeded the scope of authority of the arbitration panel, outside an unlikely, independent intervention by the California Attorney General. "</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">I understand that the SO/AC’s, not being legal entities, cannot take legal action to enforce. However, does that really equal "no mechanism to restrain ICANN from acting contrary to these decisions”?</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Most members of SO’s are legal entities, many members of AC’s are too, couldn’t those members, being affected parties, individually or collectively take legal action?</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Alternatively, I would assume that before the ultimate step of talking legal action against ICANN, the community will have escalated through its powers and thus has completed the procedure to
recall the entire board. The power to recall the entire board will have to be combined with the power to in one way or another appoint an interim board. So, the community, through due process, recalls the board. The board, in contradiction with the bylaws,
refuses “to go”. The community has recalled the board and thus, through the defined process (also in the bylaws), appoints an interim board. According to the bylaws, this interim board is now the legal representative of ICANN. And can take the required legal
action (if necessary) to force the “old” board to go away and get lost.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Would one of these two work?</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Best,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Roelof Meijer</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">From: <Hofheimer>, "Joshua T." <<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:jhofheimer%40sidley.com" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Date: donderdag 11 juni 2015 06:09</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Subject: [Acct-Legal] Memo - Revised Powers Chart, Voluntary Model</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Dear Legal Sub-Team,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Further to the CCWG request on the call last Friday, attached is a memo revising the summary chart describing the viability of the enumerated powers under the three models – Member model, Designator
Model and Voluntary Model. We also explore the impact of not having the SO/ACs organized legal persons to represent their interests.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Cheers,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Josh</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">JOSHUA HOFHEIMER</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces%40icann.org" target="_parent">ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://e-aj.my.com/x-msg:/e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces%40icann.org" target="_parent"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailto:ccwg-accountability5-bounces@icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Hilton, Tyler</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Subject: [Acct-Legal] Memo - Responses to CCWG GAC Questions</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Dear Legal Sub-team,</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Attached please find a memo responding to the list of questions from the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) provided to us on June 5, 2015.</span></div>
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