<div dir="ltr">hi Roelof, all<div><br></div><div>The more input we have the better. I share what I think is a widely held view that we have an obligation to deal with material that arrives as best we can. I take that attitude for granted.</div><div><br></div><div>Chris on this list and in the meeting this morning has assured all of us the intention is to be constructive, and I accept that.</div><div><br></div><div>The Board must have known, however, that submission of hundreds of questions about the proposal the night before a face to face meeting would likely not be seen as the most constructive manner in which to contribute to the conversation.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If my language was too strong and went beyond making that point, then I both withdraw it and apologise for it. </div><div><br></div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 June 2015 at 14:05, Roelof Meijer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl" target="_blank">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>vrijdag 19 juni 2015 13:28<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] RESEND: Impact assessment questions on CCWG Proposal<br>
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<div>It is curious that this was not submitted as part of the public comment period. </div>
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<div>Why is the Board (and the staff) working on a parallel process as shown by this document? </div>
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<div>It looks at best ill-considered. It looks at worst like a deliberate effort to undermine the CCWG.</div>
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<div>Interested in your response.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 June 2015 at 21:42, Bruce Tonkin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Resending as my original post was to the wrong mailing list:<br>
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Hello All,<br>
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In the public comments from the Board at:<br>
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<a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ccwg-accountability-draft-proposal-04may15/msg00049.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ccwg-accountability-draft-proposal-04may15/msg00049.html</a><br>
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The Board noted that it would be useful to have an impact analysis where the costs, benefits, and alternatives to proposals are weighed to assure that the design of the solution for each issues is the most efficient, least burdensome on the community , and
the most cost-effective solution.<br>
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We have prepared the attached detailed list of questions to help the CCWG with that impact analysis. Many of the questions likely have straight forward answers that can be prepared as part of a "FAQ" on the final proposal, and some questions really highlight
trade-offs that need to be made, and the questions aim to help flesh out those trade-offs.<br>
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Every major change to a system, usually results in some secondary effects. Often we can live with those secondary effects, but it is useful to think how to mitigate some of these secondary effects in the proposal.<br>
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The Board hopes these will be helpful to the group in its full day session in Buenos Aires and welcomes hearing from the CCWG on Sunday.<br>
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Unfortunately I don't arrive in Buenos Aires until Tuesday evening - but will endeavour to spend as much time as possible with you all in Buenos Aires and to help clarify any concerns raised by Board members.<br>
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I also intent to attend the face-to-face meeting in July.<br>
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