<div dir="ltr">Dear all<div><br></div><div>I haven't seen a communique written live in front of a meeting since a conference we ran in 2010. I suppose it does happen sometimes, but would welcome an item for our discussion at our next meeting whether we wish to adopt the same approach, or whether people are happy when such writing is required to have people draft it, and then discussion at the meetings.</div><div><br></div><div>Seems to me a broad based live drafting standard would considerably delay our work, but a shared understanding of what we would like to see in place could be useful.</div><div><br></div><div>best</div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 June 2015 at 12:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Dear Co-Chairs</div><div><br></div><div>I wish to thank your collleague Leon very much for admitting in person that it was not deliberated.<span class=""><br><br>el<br>-- <span></span><div><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from </span><span style="font-size:13pt">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></span></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:06, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Reading out loud is not deliberating.</div><div><br></div><div>So It is correct.</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <span></span><div><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from </span><span style="font-size:13pt">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:01, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>That is not correct. It was read out loud, circulated for feedback and then published.<div><br></div><div>Objection noted.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
<div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>León</div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 21/06/2015, a las 11:57, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>> escribió:</div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div>So what I hear that it was drafted by the Co-Chairs during lunch is correct. Never mind that it was not deliberated by the plenum.</div><div><br></div><div>Since the statement uses past tense it is at best misleading. </div><div><br></div><div>So, for the record, I object against the statement.</div><div><br></div><div>greetings, el</div><div>-- <span></span><div><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from </span><span style="font-size:13pt">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 21, 2015, at 09:46, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Eberhard,<div><br></div><div>This was drafted before the end of our working day session, read out loud to attendants and circulated for feedback.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
<div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>León</div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 21/06/2015, a las 9:29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>> escribió:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Dear Co-Chairs,</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I have not received a substantive response to my request.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">My understanding is that it was drafted before the meeting was finished, over lunch.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I demand an answer.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">el</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">-- <div>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br>On Jun 19, 2015, at 23:07, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div>When EXACTLY was this drafted?</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <span></span><div><span style="font-size:13pt">Sent from<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:13pt">Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s</span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 19, 2015, at 17:10, Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi all<div><br></div><div>Attached in doc and pdf are the updated communique - clean, and showing all the changes tracked. Mathieu finalised this.</div><div><br></div><div>I've also pasted the clean version below for easy reading.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Any comments or issues please to the list or the co-chairs by midnight Argentina time (around seven hours from time of sending)</b>.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>Jordan</div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">[...]</div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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