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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“A simple statement of intent to do so confers the legal status (personhood) needed to enforce recommended powers and authorities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seems a little counter-intuitive (self-confer a statutory status, without involvement by the state). A little more explanation from
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan Carter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:25 AM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> accountability-cross-community@icann.org Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Further thoughts on the "empowered SO/AC model" discussion on Friday<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks too to Becky for pulling this together, and I agree with Robin that the straight comparison involved here would be v helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just have a point about one sentence of Robin's email:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"I know there is greater power for those who choose to be members under the Hybrid Model with respect to budget and strat plan, but let's play out how far we *can* get with the Empowered Designator Model? "<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we need to clearly separate what the powers we propose are, from the degree to which they can be made to stick if anyone decides not to do what the community asks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The powers we propose (budget, bylaws controls; removal of directors or Board) are the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Under the <b>bylaws only</b> or <b>voluntary</b> model, none of the powers are enforceable in law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Under the <b>empowered designators</b> model, all of the powers except budget / strat plan are enforceable in law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Under the <b>SO/AC empowered </b>model, an SO or AC that opted to make the declaration could enforce any or all of the powers in law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whoever can or cannot enforce the bylaws as they relate to these powers, it makes no difference as to how the powers themselves work. That is, if there was a mix of statuses for different SOs and ACs, it would not change the balance of
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is an important point for us all to be super clear about as part of our working discussions - including the absolute possibility that my interpretation above isn't right (after all, I am not a lawyer...).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jordan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 June 2015 at 12:16, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be useful to play both scenarios out a bit - how would we do this under the Empowered Designator model and also the Hybrid Model?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How would we craft an optimal system under both models? What would they look like? How far can we get? I know there is greater power for those who choose to be members under the Hybrid Model with respect to budget and strat plan, but
let's play out how far we *can* get with the Empowered Designator Model? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we do this exercise in an objective and non-prejudicial manner, it would be extremely helpful to assist our group tease out the consequences, possibilities, and limitations of each scenario.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 21, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Burr, Becky wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">A final, important note. It appears that the same kind of mechanism could be used in the designator model context (again, with the limitations with respect to the budget and strat plan). So to the extent
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