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<div>I request you seek a retraction and formal apology from our colleague for this very unfortunate, but perhaps not surprising, turn of events. </div>
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<div>Thanks and regards,</div>
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On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:27 PM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Eberhard,</div>
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<div>This is a blunt misrepresentation and manipulation of my reply. Not to mention that you have copied lists to which I am not entitled to post to my detriment. <br>
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<div>Enviado desde el móvil. Disculpa brevedad y errores tipográficos. </div>
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El jun 21, 2015, a las 12:26 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com">epilisse@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br>
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<div>I wish to thank your collleague Leon very much for admitting in person that it was not deliberated.<br>
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On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:06, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com">epilisse@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Reading out loud is not deliberating.</div>
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<div>So It is correct.</div>
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On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:01, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>That is not correct. It was read out loud, circulated for feedback and then published.
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<div class="">So what I hear that it was drafted by the Co-Chairs during lunch is correct. Never mind that it was not deliberated by the plenum.</div>
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<div class="">Since the statement uses past tense it is at best misleading. </div>
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<div class="">So, for the record, I object against the statement.</div>
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<div class="">This was drafted before the end of our working day session, read out loud to attendants and circulated for feedback.</div>
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<div class="">El 21/06/2015, a las 9:29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" class="">el@lisse.na</a>> escribió:</div>
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I have not received a substantive response to my request.</div>
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I demand an answer.</div>
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<div class="">Attached in doc and pdf are the updated communique - clean, and showing all the changes tracked. Mathieu finalised this.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">Any comments or issues please to the list or the co-chairs by midnight Argentina time (around seven hours from time of sending)</b>.</div>
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