<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">+1 to Paul and to our esteemed Ombudsman.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg Shatan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Chris LaHatte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.lahatte@icann.org" target="_blank">chris.lahatte@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">May I implore participants to continue to note the ICANN policy on polite discourse. It is important to have a strong and vigorous debate but we don't need to make personal attacks on each other. A polite note of disagreement should be sufficient, and has been frequently used. But if we start to attack individuals on list, this will distract us from the real tasks<br>
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> On 22/06/2015, at 8:53 am, Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Colleagues<br>
><br>
> It seems to me worth recording, for "the record" that our colleague so<br>
> frequently alludes to, some thoughts about the leadership of our group.<br>
> Given the frequency and vituperative nature of the criticism emanating from<br>
> one corner, I would not want silence in our discussions to in any way<br>
> betoken agreement or assent. When some future historian looks back on these<br>
> proceedings they might mistake volume for accuracy and lack of contradiction<br>
> for agreement. That is most certainly not the case (at least not for me,<br>
> and I suspect for many others).<br>
><br>
> I, for one, began this process with a modest amount of optimism that it<br>
> could prove productive and a healthy dollop of skepticism that so unwieldy a<br>
> process could be effectively managed. In 35 years in government and the<br>
> private sector I have seen any number of committees with a much narrower<br>
> mandate and a much smaller membership flounder and fail.<br>
><br>
> We should all, therefore, reflect that our co-Chairs and rapporteurs have,<br>
> through their efforts, managed to push us along this far and this<br>
> effectively. They have run an open and transparent process. They have been<br>
> inclusive. They have moved the discussion along (perhaps too fast for some,<br>
> but well within the bounds of reasonableness). They have exhibited patience<br>
> beyond measure (I, personally, would long ago have asked the chartering<br>
> organization to recall its member). And, to their very great credit, they<br>
> have allowed the process to run without imposing their own views -- indeed,<br>
> I would be hard pressed to state exactly what they might be -- an exercise<br>
> in restraint that deserves praise.<br>
><br>
> In short, by any objective measure our co-Chairs have done a fine job. It<br>
> has not been perfect, to be sure, but it has met every objective test of<br>
> reasonableness that one can devise. I reject utterly any suggestion of<br>
> bias, animus, or dishonesty. Those are baseless puerile allegations that<br>
> reflect more on the nature of the accuser, whose views will, I am sure, be<br>
> seen in retrospect as baseless.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
> Paul Rosenzweig<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Malcolm Hutty [mailto:<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">malcolm@linx.net</a>]<br>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:59 PM<br>
> To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
> Cc: List ccTLD Community; CCWG Accountability; Lisse Eberhard;<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ccnso-members@icann.org">ccnso-members@icann.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:cctldworld@icann.org">cctldworld@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight<br>
> Argentina time<br>
><br>
>> On 21/06/2015 21:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:<br>
>> Dear Co-Chairs,<br>
>><br>
>> Your Co-Chair is being quite economical with the truth.<br>
><br>
> Dear Dr Lisse,<br>
><br>
> I am getting quite tired of the repeated disrespect you are showing to our<br>
> colleagues, and your unfair attempts to impugne their integrity.<br>
><br>
> The communique was proposed to the meeting and read out. Participants were<br>
> invited to comment; there being no substantive comments, the communique was<br>
> accepted. I don't know what more deliberation you could want. The handling<br>
> was entirely proper and normal.<br>
><br>
> Your attacks on León are without a shred of justification, as were your<br>
> previous attacks on our co-chairs. He deserves your apology, as do they; if<br>
> you choose to withhold it, that reflects upon you, not on them.<br>
><br>
> Perhaps you might wish to reflect on how counter-productive your approach is<br>
> to any effort to persuade colleagues to give their attention to your<br>
> interventions, and the disservice you are doing your own cause thereby.<br>
><br>
> I am a proud proponent of the multistakeholder model. Many on this list are<br>
> new to this model, and unused to the opportunity openness to all does give<br>
> to those who wish to be rude and disruptive. I am embarrassed to think how<br>
> they must feel when they see this spat, and the other occasions you have<br>
> mistreated colleagues here.<br>
><br>
> I can only hope that our new colleagues can look past the behaviour of one<br>
> individual and recognise the deep well of cooperation and goodwill that<br>
> characterises the rest of our work. I hope they can still find it in<br>
> themselves to agree with me that the great achievement of building a broad<br>
> base of consensus in such a challenging area is worth even the inconvenience<br>
> of suffering such rudeness.<br>
><br>
> I am sorry I have had to be so blunt, but remaining silent felt too much<br>
> like complicity in an injustice.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> Malcolm Hutty.<br>
><br>
><br>
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