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<blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It¹s just a game to him, let¹s refuse to play</span></font></blockquote>
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On Jun 22, 2015, at 11:15, Roelof Meijer <<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Dear Paul, all,</span><br>
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<span>To make sure that the record, and any future historian, gets this right: I</span><br>
<span>completely agree with Paul¹s assessment of the performance and conduct of</span><br>
<span>our co-chairs and rapporteurs.</span><br>
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<span>Additionally, als to make sure that both the record and future historians</span><br>
<span>get this right, let¹s all agree that volume is not equal to accuracy and</span><br>
<span>lack of contradiction does not at all means agreement.</span><br>
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<span>I am of the opinion that the best way to deal with Eberhard Lisse¹s</span><br>
<span>completely unfounded, aggressive criticism often aimed at CCWG colleagues</span><br>
<span>who, in sharp contrast, contribute enormously to our goal, can best be</span><br>
<span>ignored.</span><br>
<span>As we witness now again, every reaction to him, provokes another reaction,</span><br>
<span>frustrating us all, distracting us from our work and not getting us any</span><br>
<span>further.</span><br>
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<span>It¹s just a game to him, let¹s refuse to play.</span><br>
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<span>If we really want this to stop, we should deal with it in a structural</span><br>
<span>way, not by agreeing publicly that we all disagree.</span><br>
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<span>Best,</span><br>
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<span>Roelof Meijer</span><br>
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<span>On 22-06-15 08:16, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on</span><br>
<span>behalf of Paul Rosenzweig"</span><br>
<span><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of</span><br>
<span><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Colleagues</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>It seems to me worth recording, for "the record" that our colleague so</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>frequently alludes to, some thoughts about the leadership of our group.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Given the frequency and vituperative nature of the criticism emanating</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>from</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>one corner, I would not want silence in our discussions to in any way</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>betoken agreement or assent. When some future historian looks back on</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>these</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>proceedings they might mistake volume for accuracy and lack of</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>contradiction</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>for agreement. That is most certainly not the case (at least not for me,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>and I suspect for many others).</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I, for one, began this process with a modest amount of optimism that it</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>could prove productive and a healthy dollop of skepticism that so</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>unwieldy a</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>process could be effectively managed. In 35 years in government and the</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>private sector I have seen any number of committees with a much narrower</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>mandate and a much smaller membership flounder and fail.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>We should all, therefore, reflect that our co-Chairs and rapporteurs have,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>through their efforts, managed to push us along this far and this</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>effectively. They have run an open and transparent process. They have</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>been</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>inclusive. They have moved the discussion along (perhaps too fast for</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>some,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>but well within the bounds of reasonableness). They have exhibited</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>patience</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>beyond measure (I, personally, would long ago have asked the chartering</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>organization to recall its member). And, to their very great credit, they</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>have allowed the process to run without imposing their own views --</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>indeed,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be hard pressed to state exactly what they might be -- an exercise</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>in restraint that deserves praise.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>In short, by any objective measure our co-Chairs have done a fine job. It</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>has not been perfect, to be sure, but it has met every objective test of</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>reasonableness that one can devise. I reject utterly any suggestion of</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>bias, animus, or dishonesty. Those are baseless puerile allegations that</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>reflect more on the nature of the accuser, whose views will, I am sure, be</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>seen in retrospect as baseless.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul Rosenzweig</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>O: +1 (202) 547-0660</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>M: +1 (202) 329-9650</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Malcolm Hutty [<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net">mailto:malcolm@linx.net</a>]</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:59 PM</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: List ccTLD Community; CCWG Accountability; Lisse Eberhard;</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:ccnso-members@icann.org">ccnso-members@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:cctldworld@icann.org">cctldworld@icann.org</a></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Argentina time</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On 21/06/2015 21:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Co-Chairs,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Your Co-Chair is being quite economical with the truth.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Dear Dr Lisse,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I am getting quite tired of the repeated disrespect you are showing to our</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>colleagues, and your unfair attempts to impugne their integrity.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>The communique was proposed to the meeting and read out. Participants were</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>invited to comment; there being no substantive comments, the communique</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>was</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>accepted. I don't know what more deliberation you could want. The handling</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>was entirely proper and normal.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Your attacks on León are without a shred of justification, as were your</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>previous attacks on our co-chairs. He deserves your apology, as do they;</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>if</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>you choose to withhold it, that reflects upon you, not on them.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Perhaps you might wish to reflect on how counter-productive your approach</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>to any effort to persuade colleagues to give their attention to your</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>interventions, and the disservice you are doing your own cause thereby.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I am a proud proponent of the multistakeholder model. Many on this list</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>new to this model, and unused to the opportunity openness to all does give</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>to those who wish to be rude and disruptive. I am embarrassed to think how</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>they must feel when they see this spat, and the other occasions you have</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>mistreated colleagues here.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I can only hope that our new colleagues can look past the behaviour of one</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>individual and recognise the deep well of cooperation and goodwill that</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>characterises the rest of our work. I hope they can still find it in</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>themselves to agree with me that the great achievement of building a broad</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>base of consensus in such a challenging area is worth even the</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>inconvenience</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>of suffering such rudeness.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I am sorry I have had to be so blunt, but remaining silent felt too much</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>like complicity in an injustice.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Malcolm Hutty.</span><br>
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