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<div>To amplify on Keith’s point – we must get it done right, and in a timely fashion. I see both as mandatory criteria. Neither objective should – or need be – sacrificed in the name of the other. We have a window of opportunity that may close, at least
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><Drazek>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:43 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:directors@omadhina.net">directors@omadhina.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:directors@omadhina.net">directors@omadhina.net</a>>, Accountability Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] A question about WS1 v WS2<br>
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<div>Thank you Kavouss and Jonathan and Jordan. </div>
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<div>We need to get our work done correctly AND in a timely manner to enable a successful transition. </div>
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<div>I believe we can do both. They are not mutually exclusive.</div>
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<div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">That is precisely why we agreed to bifurcate our work into WS-1 and WS-2.</span></div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Keith</div>
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On Jun 22, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Agree with Jonathan
<div>We must concentrate on priority actions </div>
<div>Pls do not involve us in something which is not pressing . We have littlke time</div>
<div>We do not want to spent hours and hours on these like those hours that we wasted on UA.</div>
<div>We were misled and we do not want to do it again</div>
<div>The working method and priorities must be identified and decided at the level of the main group and not at the level of working parties</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Kavouss </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-06-23 0:23 GMT+02:00 Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr">
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Hi Colleagues,<br>
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In agreement with Dr. Lisse, we need to get it right nonetheless the<br>
essence of strategy is choosing what not to do. (Michael Porter)<br>
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On 6/23/15, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear Co-Chairs,<br>
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> he's wrong. As usual.<br>
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> We need to get it right. Not get it done.<br>
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> Never mind that Strickling has pronounced himself very clearly and<br>
> repeatedly.<br>
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> el<br>
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> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini<br>
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>> On Jun 22, 2015, at 17:24, Jonathan Zuck <<a href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org">JZuck@actonline.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I certainly agree with your interpretation, Jordan. The pressing nature of<br>
>> the transition dictates we limit our function to empowering the community<br>
>> and not trying to solve every challenge of ICANN accountability. There’s a<br>
>> great deal that can and should be done to improve the accountability of<br>
>> the organization as a whole including operational improvements and<br>
>> metrics, facilitating periodic participation in policy development and<br>
>> greater use of data in policy development as well as establishing a<br>
>> culture of continuous improvement (working on those two!).<br>
>><br>
>> But we can't do that in WS1<br>
>><br>
>> Jonathan Zuck<br>
>> President<br>
>> ACT: The App Association<br>
>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Www.ACTonline.org&d=AwMF_g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=lYaanM0LtSkNzSSPuIrVvnPTHZ729G7_pp66_aXJ1Ik&s=bUvwXc-OhZpubppydzO11hdbQulw89NTJxF-PfVf0MA&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://Www.ACTonline.org</a><br>
>><br>
>> From: Jordan Carter<br>
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:19 PM<br>
>> To: Accountability CCWG<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all<br>
>><br>
>> I had the dubious pleasure of reading a post by one of our participants<br>
>> which got me thinking a range of things[1].. some of them constructive<br>
>> :-)<br>
>><br>
>> One is something I wanted to test others' views on.<br>
>><br>
>> Both in Kieran's piece and in the other feedback from various<br>
>> conversations and comments, there's a clear current of both<br>
>> staff/management accountability and ICANN entities/organisations<br>
>> accountability as needing work.<br>
>><br>
>> Now, I agree with that - I think the openness of this ICANN system is very<br>
>> poor, due to many things - the ridiculous time demands it makes on people<br>
>> to understand how it works (something none of our proposals materially<br>
>> complicates), the density and extent of the information, the rushed pace<br>
>> of many discussions, the ICANN way of doing multiple things at once, etc<br>
>> etc.<br>
>><br>
>> I also think the culture across the organisation is relatively inwardly<br>
>> focused... and that the Board has a job to do in building a culture and<br>
>> practice of accountability and community engagement in parts of the staff.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> But those are the views of an insider/outsider: someone whose job links<br>
>> him to this ICANN system, but who has only (!) attended six meetings of<br>
>> ICANN. Others of you will have different perspectives.<br>
>><br>
>> To the crux of my point: while I would really like us to tackle all the<br>
>> above, we face an imperative to not hold up the transition. I think we<br>
>> have been clear about that from the beginning, which was delayed from when<br>
>> it should have happened due to some of the factors I note above.<br>
>><br>
>> So: my interpretation has always been as follows:<br>
>><br>
>> Making ICANN's operations more generally accountable, and the whole<br>
>> organisation more outward looking and open, is very important - but our<br>
>> job in WorkStream 1 has been to put in place the structural features of a<br>
>> new accountability settlement that will give us the chance to achieve that<br>
>> in WorkStream 2.<br>
>><br>
>> To put it another way: we have to constrain ourselves to building the<br>
>> levers in this WS1 process that will allow the broader changes to approach<br>
>> that are needed and will be on the table in WS2, and then the first of the<br>
>> new ATRT reviews.<br>
>><br>
>> Do you share this understanding of why we have limited our focus?<br>
>><br>
>> Interested in people's thoughts on this. Want to know if I am out on a<br>
>> limb!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> thanks<br>
>> Jordan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> [1]:<br>
>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.theregister.co.uk_2015_06_18_us-5Fgovernment-5Fstages-5Fanother-5Fiana-5Fintervention_&d=AwMF_g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=lYaanM0LtSkNzSSPuIrVvnPTHZ729G7_pp66_aXJ1Ik&s=2bk70Iq5_dRKLoZt9BmoYY_NBZtKtMdyJE6s0--YbHA&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/us_government_stages_another_iana_intervention/</a><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jordan Carter<br>
>><br>
>> Chief Executive<br>
>> InternetNZ<br>
>><br>
>> 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)<br>
>> <a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a><br>
>> Skype: jordancarter<br>
>><br>
>> A better world through a better Internet<br>
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