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<p class="p2">Cheers,</p>
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<br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:30 , Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" class="">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">hi Chris<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't understand how your comment relates to Malcolm's?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers</div><div class="">Jordan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2015 at 00:21, Chris Disspain <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_blank" class="">ceo@auda.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><span style="font-family:'Verdana';font-size:13px;color:rgb(102,102,102)" class="">Hello Malcolm,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m afraid I disagree with your interpretation. An intransigent position that does not countenance the possibility of movement away from or towards various solutions is a guarantee of failure when it comes to reaching consensus.<br class=""><div class=""><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">Cheers,</p><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">Chris</p>
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Jul 2015, at 22:16 , Malcolm Hutty <<a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank" class="">malcolm@linx.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><br class="">On 07/07/2015 13:02, Kimberly Carlson wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Here are today’s slides in both PowerPoint and PDF formats.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">On slide 2, "Overview", it says<br class=""><br class="">"The two new models seek to address concerns expressed by members of the<br class="">multi-stakeholder community on the Community Empowerment Mechanism<br class="">described in Section 5 of CCWG’s Accountability Initial Draft Proposal<br class="">for Public Comment (4 May 2015) (“Initial Proposal”)"<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I'm afraid that this suggests that once again the lawyers have been<br class="">asked to examine the wrong question.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The issue we must consider is not merely which of these two models will<br class="">best deliver on Section 5 of the CCWG's proposal, the community powers,<br class="">but which will best deliver *all* of it.<br class=""><br class="">Section 3 ("Principles") and Section 4 ("Appeals Mechanisms") are<br class="">essential elements of the CCWG proposal. So the lawyer's ought to have<br class="">been asked to consider how the two models differ in their effects on<br class="">those two sections too.<br class=""><br class="">As it happens, there is a passing mention of disparate effect: on slide<br class="">16 "Empowered SO/AC Designator Model" under "Problems/Complications" it<br class="">states "SOs and ACs would not have the reserved powers of members to<br class="">reverse board decisions like [...] implementing IRP recommendations."<br class=""><br class="">However this crucial distinction has been given very little visibility<br class="">of emphasis, I think as a result of concentrating only on Section 5, to<br class="">the exclusion of Sections 3 & 4.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""> Malcolm Hutty | tel: <a href="tel:%2B44%2020%207645%203523" value="+442076453523" target="_blank" class="">+44 20 7645 3523</a><br class=""> Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog<br class=""> London Internet Exchange | <a href="http://publicaffairs.linx.net/" target="_blank" class="">http://publicaffairs.linx.net/</a><br class=""><br class=""> London Internet Exchange Ltd<br class=""> 21-27 St Thomas Street, London SE1 9RY<br class=""><br class=""> Company Registered in England No. 3137929<br class=""> Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></span></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">
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