<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Seun,<div><br></div><div>Can you point where this understanding and learning comes from? I don't think any of this is correct, unless you are referring to a "council" where each SO/AC is a statutory member of the corporation.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes indeed thats what i was referring to</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> This is not the case in the "single member model," where there is only one statutory member.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Okay thanks for clarifying that for me. So if i get this correctly; does it mean one of the SO/AC will be a member and then every other SO and AC exercise their powers through that single member?. Specifically which of the SO/AC will be member in the single member model?</div><div><br></div><div>However if one of the SO/AC won't have to become a member but the entire council becoming a UA to fulfill membership requirement, how will that address some SO/AC not wanting to enter into such legal formality? also how will accountability of the council be ensured as it could then mean creating a mini-ICANN board as the council members would have the voting rights, independence et all. Perhaps the council can be limited by its governing document, but how will removing council members for instance be in effect if the populating source(SO/AC) is not a UA.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps its not as complicated as i am imagining it so it will be good to hear some clarifications.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Greg<span></span></div></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><div><br>On Thursday, July 9, 2015, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I understand the powers would be bestowed on the council individuals and not their source position;</p>
<p dir="ltr">For instance one of the option is to populate the community council with leaders of SO/AC, which IMO would be the cheapest route in this model so they would be occupying a virtual seat and exercise those powers when required. It would also allow the various SO/AC internet accountability mechanisms apply to council including removal of members.</p>
<p dir="ltr">However, I then learnt that the council cannot be formed by SO/AC leader positions but rather to the occupants of that position. This would mean having to rewrite the bylaw/document forming the council often since leaders of those positions are dynamic and could change at anytime. Will be good to know if that is no longer the case</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jul 2015 2:56 pm, "Roelof Meijer" <<a>Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Interesting, we’re back on the subject of a single member structure. It was written off before</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>woensdag 22 april 2015 15:56<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] member organization and single membership structure<br>
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The sole membership construction, is a possibility described in the legal document in several places: the comments by the legal experts on the PCCWG mechanism template (page 64) and the Community Council mechanism template (page 69). I sent <font face="Calibri,sans-serif">several
emails about it to the WP1 list, suggesting to look in the possibility as indeed it would not necessitate every SO and AC to become a legal entity. And, as you do, suggesting: "</font><span>make the „Community Council” the sole
member of ICANN (and thus a formal legal entity), consisting of either the SO and AC chairs or SO/AC elected representatives” (from an email of 14 April).</span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">And I would think it would enable the SO’s and AC’s themselves to continue appointing directors, as they do now. But that’s just guessing, based on the fact that the SO’s and AC’s themselves
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<div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">What I find quite frustrating is that I have raised the point of the possibility (or not) of a single membership structure – an option mentioned by Sidley and Adler & Colving in their legal advice – several
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In some way that might lessen the complexity of making most SOAC an individual legal entity.
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How would it work? Would we continue to appoint Directors just as we do now?<br>
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Or would there need to be some sort of Members Council that took actions, working simliarly to the the executive board or community council idea?<br>
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