<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Hello</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">ACTION ITEM: Sebastien Bachollet is to create a first draft of how to address diversity issue. </span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 254);">Please find attached a first draft document about diversity.</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px; background-color: rgb(254, 253, 253);">And the link to a Google doc</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PN0uI8JWpfVwabxoiwF7QqtLP4aiPSK_2zaoQlJm72I/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PN0uI8JWpfVwabxoiwF7QqtLP4aiPSK_2zaoQlJm72I/edit</a></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px;">The next call is on the 13th.</span></font></div><div><font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px;">I will be on my flight from Lima to Paris or just landing and needing to catch a train. Difficult to join.</span></font></div><div><font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px;">See you soon in Paris.</span></font></div><div><font face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.066667556762695px;">All the best</span></font></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Sébastien Bachollet</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">+33 6 07 66 89 33</font></font></div><div>Blog: <a href="http://sebastien.bachollet.fr">http://sebastien.bachollet.fr</a>/</div><div>Mail: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri;">Sébastien Bachollet <<a href="mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com">sebastien@bachollet.com</a>></span></div></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">De : </span> <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Kimberly Carlson <<a href="mailto:kimberly.carlson@icann.org">kimberly.carlson@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> vendredi 10 juillet 2015 07:49<br><span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc : </span> "<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> [CCWG-ACCT] Notes-Recordings-Transcript links for WP3 Meeting #3 (10 July)<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The notes, recordings and transcripts for the WP<span style="color:#1F497D">3</span> Meeting #<span style="color:#1F497D">3</span> –
<span style="color:#1F497D">10 </span>July will be available here: <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53783270">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53783270</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">A copy of the notes and action items may be found below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you<span style="color:#1F497D">.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kim<o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">ACTION Items<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Anyone interested in staff accountability should volunteer. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Jan and Leon to include Mathieu's suggestions on SO/AC accountability.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Staff to recirculate the list of SO/ACs' accountability rules.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Leon to incorporate comments on SO/AC accountability and to create a google doc.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up a google doc for volunteers to provide input on staff accountability. More volunteers are needed for this task. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;line-height:14.3pt;background:white"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;">ACTION ITEM: Sebastien Bachollet is to create a first draft of how to address diversity issue. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Notes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Review of Open Action Items</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">All action items are complete. More volunteers are needed for staff accountability group. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">ACTION ITEM: Anyone interested in staff accountability should volunteer. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">SO/AC Accountability Draft Proposal </span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">It explains scope of our work. It closes by suggesting 4 actions that should be taken into account when the CCWG builds its next proposal: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Amend current draft and include commitment to have each SO/AC perform a complete review of existing mechanisms as part of WS2 to be implemented after transition;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Include evaluation of proposed "Mutual Accountability Roundtable" as part of WS2;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">3 Establish a commitment to carry a detailed working plan on enhancing SO/Accountability as part of WS2;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">4 Clarify that IRP should be applicable to SO/AC activities. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Feedback</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Would there also be a review - in terms of documentation - of SO/AC rules and procedures? Would that be part of the review that will be undertaken? Mathieu circulated something that had provisions about SO/ACs - why was that not included?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">--> Intent is to have this draft refined. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">ACTION ITEM: Jan and Leon to include Mathieu's suggestions on SO/AC accountability.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">--> Staff included this set of documents in the reading list.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">ACTION ITEM: Staff to recirculate the list of SO/ACs' accountability rules. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- There are nested regulations that will show rules are in place but it won't necessarily show that rules are being followed or that we are accountable to community. To what extent do we want to claim that
SO/Acs embody a real subset that maps to community outside? </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> Most of references that we find in ATRT recommendations are nested rules that should apply to staff. We need to be clearer as to which rules and how they are applicable to each SO/AC. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- We all have a consistent set of rules. At the moment, because of relationship of SO/ACs, there is not only broader accountability, there is also
a cycle of Board reviews. We have to include review cycle as part of it. The effectiveness of review cycle depends on model we have. IRP is currently not applicable: we need more than a clarification: we need retesting of IRP. Is there an escalation procedure at the moment to get to IRP i.e. reconsideration etc? Is it appropriate for workload
etc? Ombudmsan has done a lot of work in arbitrary issues: is that an ingredient as well?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> Avri's help on how to address questions and to build them into document would be welcome. While ombudsman's role is to mediate between different people, unsure how could interpret that his role
as an accountability mechanism. we would need to refine or enhance role with regards to this type of mediation. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Another resource that could be added would be organizational reviews as they touch on accountability of organization. For instance Westlake review of GNSO. Similar reviews that will be conducted will be an essential part of the picture. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Ombudsman is a large part of this. Although he does mediation, its formal rule has to do with fairness and exercising rules fairly, evenly across community. Ombudsman plays a large part of this. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">ACTION ITEM: Leon to incorporate comments on SO/AC accountability and to create a google doc. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Staff Accountability Draft Proposal</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">The staff Accountatbility paper reflects comments made in the discussions that were started. Some views were incorporated, wording was tweaked,
initial assessment was proposed. This might be incomplete: still need to go through documents to see how staff could be accountable to SO/ACs. With regards to AoC, all the AoC reviews include key commitments for ICANN, the organization. We have nested regulations that while applicable to SO/ACs should be also applicable to staff and do not have written commitments. We only a paragraph 9.e which refers directly to staff. No particular recommendation in ATRT work
refers to Board actions to be undertaken by staff. Articles were found within Bylaws: while they established certain aspects of accountability, they don't address concerns raised. Three proposed CCWG steps are:</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">1. Review current document so we can extend mechanisms that we are proposing to staff work;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">2. Include a work plan as part of WS2 that considers Code of conduct and transparency criteria;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">3. Establishment of regular independent audit to track progress.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Feedback:</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Staff are very often the only one who know what's going on inside inside operation of ICANN. They cannot report what's going on. ATRT has discussed whistblowing and
it is pending. It should be part of our accountability package. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> We should think about adding this component to suggestions.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up a google doc for volunteers to provide input on staff accountability. More volunteers are needed for this task. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Diversity</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Sebastien's comment covers diversity with regards to different criteria: gender balance, age, region, stakeholders etc. An email from Jan was circulated on this issue which recommended to make exclusive commitments with regards to diversity that would address this issue. WS2 could include specific list of issues on diversity of SO/ACs. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Feedback</span></u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- A remark made in public forum with regards to diversity has to do with accessibility to those with various disabilities. There is an accessibility group in ALAC. Balancing diversity with other needs can sometimes create unintended consequences. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> Comments from AFNIC were also submitted: proposal to expand ATRT to diversity review. It also suggests protecting from one region's influence. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Hard to discuss diversity requirements. Unsure whether talking about 29 members. One could look at regional diversity. Is the group happy we would limit diversity to a region - we will need to have an explicit decision of how far we are addressing diversity at this stage.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> So far, we have looked a geographic only but constructive to consider other factors (language, age, etc). Our document should establish a fixed set of criteria.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- There could be an endless cycle of diversity concerns that do not substantically increase overal expertise. It would be very case by case. Sometimes gender diversity would provide a grater enhancement of expertise than geographic diversity.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">---> We need balance. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Specific to issue, diversity requirements created on fly. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- When we have various models and contracts, we push to meet all diversity in that number. Hard coded requirements should be made different.
We get concerns about geographic </span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">balance </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">at the cost of volunteers willing to do work. We should look at balance in human kind - we should try mechanisms to bring that. They should be seen as important. We need to take it through staged implementation role.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- We invariably end up suffering from diversity requirements. Getting volunteers to do the work is where we severely struggle at ICANN. The largest disability is not speaking English - we
are never going to have the money from translation/interpretation that the UN has. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- There is a group which is trying to systematically evolve policy culture of ICANN to use metrics. We are doing that by building language into templates that are used for issues report and chartering. In each and every case, it looks at feasibility so that it becomes explicit aspiration,
as opposed to implicit. It is the duty of the group to ensure there are enough voices to be heard. Anything that looks like quota is to increase overall implementation in ICANN. We are not opposed to getting more diversity which will have effect of greater involvement. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- There may be struggles to get volunteers but it is probably not purely a function of getting people involved. ICANN room
is not close to current distribution. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- Any discussion should talk about how to expand pool of outsiders for outreach and engagement. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">- We have cultures that do not work the way ICANN works. Culture is an important aspect we cannot forget. Justifying accountability as impediments
might stop participation. We live in complex world.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">ACTION ITEM: Sebastien Bachollet is to create a first draft of how to address diversity issue. </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p></div></div></div>
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