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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>Hi Jordan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>I am personally
quite comfortable with the logic of the appointing body being the removing body
for individual directors (recognising there is work to be done in respect of
NomCom appointees).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>One of the
concerns that comes up in thinking about this is probably well represented by
this hypothetical &amp; fictional scenario:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><i><span lang=EN-US>The GNSO
demands that the proceeds of the new gTLD programme be returned to the
registries pro rata depending on the number of registrations. The Board does
not agree, including the GNSO appointed directors on the Board. The GNSO
removes its directors and appoints different ones who say they will support
this proposal.</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><i><span lang=EN-US>&nbsp;</span></i><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>I think this
scenario would never play out in practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Why not?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:
Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US>two out of
sixteen directors would never be credibly enough to completely change the
Board's position on a matter involving significant resources and impact on the
public.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>The GNSO can recall their dissident director even if they know
the Board decision will not change, just to punish him</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:
Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US>the new
directors would face the same obligations the old directors faced to act in the
public interest<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>I don’t see how this obligation will prevent the scenario to
happen since the evaluation of the public Interest may be different from a
party (or a person) to another<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>The removal of
individual directors is possible in very many organisations and it is only when
they are dysfunctional that these sorts of games start being played.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>To ensure that this will only happen when there is dysfunction,
we need to put the necessary and right rules, not permit to the appointing
bodies to recall there directors without convincing reason<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>I think in any
situation where an SO/AC or the NomCom was contemplating removing a director, they'd
be carefully considering what they could really achieve. And they'd be unlikely
to do it for reasons of rent-seeking or other self-interested things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>you are lucky to believe so even if nothing prevent it<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br>
The whole rationale behind the power, in my view, is that it simply tightens
the link between directors and their appointing bodies. It isn't and should not
be a backdoor way to change directors from directors into mere avatars for the
specific interests of their appointing groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>George, I hope this
is constructive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>A last
question...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>Do you have a concrete suggestion
as to how you would see the exercise of such a power being done by &quot;a
process that is broadly distributed in the community&quot; as an alternative
for us to consider, and seek legal advice on?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>This
is a proposals for exercising the power of recalling Board directors by a</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>process that is well distributed in the
community consisting in recalling the board directors (from 1 to 15) by the
community and not a single SO or AC:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>The
decision is taken by at least 4 SOs and/or ACs &nbsp;including at list 1 SO and
1 AC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>All
the directors have the same treatment (selected by their constituencies or by
the nomcom)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>The
SOs and ACs and the NomCom select the board directors and their interim
simultaneously (the GNSO selects 2 acting directors and 2 interim ones and the
ALAC selects 1 acting director and 1 interim one, etc.). <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>All
acting directors sign before taking their position as Board Director a
commitment to step down in case a community decision to recall them is taken <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>Those
interim directors will fully replace the removed directors if the number of
recalled directors is less than 8. In case the number reaches 8 or more, the
resulting board (non recalled directors plus the interim of the recalled ones) will
act as a caretaker till the selection of new directors to replace the recalled
ones. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#365F91'><span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>This
is to replace the 2 powers: stilling the whole board and recalling individual
board directors. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>This
has the merit to; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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directors instead of 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De&nbsp;:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <b>De la part de</b>
Jordan Carter<br>
<b>Envoyé&nbsp;:</b> dimanche 12 juillet 2015 04:40<br>
<b>Cc&nbsp;:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] An mplication of accountability models
being discussed<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Thank you George, interesting post - a couple of thoughts in
line below:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>On 11 July 2015 at 05:13, George Sadowsky &lt;<a
href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&lt;snip&gt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Here's the question: Does the CCWG believe that the global
public interest is _always_ defined by &quot;community&quot; consensus or
&quot;community&quot; dictates?&nbsp; &nbsp; Yes or no?&nbsp; I believe that
the great majority of the time the two are consistent, but I believe that there
are cases in which they diverge.&nbsp; &nbsp;Is there any disagreement among us
that this could happen?&nbsp; In that case, what should a Board member do?&nbsp;
Which is the higher authority according to the CCWG's thinking?<o:p></o:p></p>

</blockquote>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I think there will always be occasions when there is a
divergence between interpretations of the global public interest on the part of
different stakeholders. The ICANN Board will remain charged, I think, with bringing
that global perspective to bear. But this decision is made easier by ICANN's
very limited role, and by the identify of interests in its performance of that
role between what the Internet and its users need, and what core operational
ICANN stakeholders want: completely reliable operation of the IANA functions,
and an open and accountable, bottom up, consensus driven policy process - with
the Board generally validating the outcomes of consensus policy processes.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>To put it another way, the global public interest is always
served by ICANN focusing on doing its core operational jobs well. Beyond that,
it becomes very subjective, as you note.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&lt;snip&gt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
This implies to me that the test for removal of a Director must rest upon a
process that is broadly distributed in the community and must recognize the
different organizations to which such a member is accountable as an important
factor in the process.<br>
<br>
What are the opinions of members of the CCWG on this point?<o:p></o:p></p>

</blockquote>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>I am personally quite comfortable with the logic of the
appointing body being the removing body for individual directors (recognising
there is work to be done in respect of NomCom appointees).<span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>)</span><span
lang=EN-US>One of the concerns that comes up in thinking about this is probably
well represented by this hypothetical &amp; fictional scenario:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><i>The GNSO demands that the proceeds of the new gTLD
programme be returned to the registries pro rata depending on the number of
registrations. The Board does not agree, including the GNSO appointed directors
on the Board. The GNSO removes its directors and appoints different ones who
say they will support this proposal.</i><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><i>&nbsp;</i><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I think this scenario would never play out in practice.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>Why not?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>two out of sixteen directors would never be
     credibly enough to completely change the Board's position on a matter
     involving significant resources and impact on the public.<o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'>the new directors would face the same obligations
     the old directors faced to act in the public interest<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>The removal of individual directors is possible in very many
organisations and it is only when they are dysfunctional that these sorts of
games start being played.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I think in any situation where an SO/AC or the NomCom was
contemplating removing a director, they'd be carefully considering what they
could really achieve. And they'd be unlikely to do it for reasons of
rent-seeking or other self-interested things.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><br>
The whole rationale behind the power, in my view, is that it simply tightens
the link between directors and their appointing bodies. It isn't and should not
be a backdoor way to change directors from directors into mere avatars for the
specific interests of their appointing groups.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>George, I hope this is constructive.<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>A last question...<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Do you have a concrete
suggestion as to how you would see the exercise of such a power being done by
&quot;a process that is broadly distributed in the community&quot; as an
alternative for us to consider, and seek legal advice on?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>The advice we've had so far suggests that it's simple to
have the appointment and removal function with the same group, but more
complicated (though not, if memory serves, impossible) for removers to be
different to appointers.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal>cheers<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Jordan<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p>

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