<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><blockquote type="cite" class="">We have now decisively established that UK law is not US law.</blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Not sure we have consensus on that and nor have we received independent legal advice fro lawyers in both jurisdictions.<br class=""><div class="">
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<p class="p2">Cheers,</p>
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<p class="p2">Chris</p>


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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Jul 2015, at 22:06 , Paul Rosenzweig &lt;<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" class="">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Great. &nbsp;We have now decisively established that UK law is not US law. &nbsp;And<br class="">also that online legal resources are incomplete.<br class=""><br class="">Paul Rosenzweig<br class=""><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com" class="">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a> <br class="">O: +1 (202) 547-0660<br class="">M: +1 (202) 329-9650<br class="">VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<br class="">Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Nigel Roberts [<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" class="">mailto:nigel@channelisles.net</a>] <br class="">Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:57 AM<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Concept of some form of "independent" member<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse &lt;<a href="mailto:el@lisse.NA" class="">el@lisse.NA</a>&gt; Would have been too much work <br class="">obviously to write "yes".<br class=""><br class="">el<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">Would have been an incorrect answer, even in California.<br class=""><br class=""> From my research, it appears that a California UA<br class=""><br class="">- does NOT have legal personality<br class="">- DOES have limited liability granted by statute.<br class=""><br class="">See<br class=""><a href="http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-an-unincorporated-nonprofit-asso" class="">http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-an-unincorporated-nonprofit-asso</a><br class="">ciation.html<br class="">which states :-<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The biggest drawback to the unincorporated nonprofit association, and the<br class=""></blockquote>reason nonprofits often abandon this form in favor of a nonprofit<br class="">corporation, is that it has no separate legal existence apart from its<br class="">members. Because it is not respected as a separate legal entity, its members<br class="">generally can be personally liable for its debts and liabilities. Some<br class="">states, such as California, give some limited liability to nonprofit<br class="">association members; but it's not as good as the protection obtainable from<br class="">a nonprofit corporation. Moreover, unless your state law contains an<br class="">"enabling statute" granting such rights entities, an unincorporated<br class="">association cannot hold or receive property, or sign contracts, in its own<br class="">name.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list <br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></span></body></html>