<div dir="ltr">Thank you very much, Jonathan, Sharon and all.<div><br></div><div>best</div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 July 2015 at 02:50, Jonathan Robinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thank-you Jordan,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We have confirmation from Sharon so please do proceed accordingly.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Jordan Carter [mailto:<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 23 July 2015 00:40<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>; Flanagan, Sharon <<a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" target="_blank">sflanagan@sidley.com</a>>; ACCT-Staff <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" target="_blank">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>; Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">Mathieu.Weill@afnic.fr</a>>; Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>; Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>; Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>>; Accountability Cross Community <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FW: [client com] CWG Confirmation - Fundamental Bylaws inclusions<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">At our WP1 meeting on 22 July (19h) we tentatively signed off these more abstracted/summarised versions of this:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.45pt"><span lang="EN-US">5.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US">The IANA Function Review and the Separation Process required by the CWG-Stewardship’s proposal; </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:8.0pt;margin-left:35.45pt"><span lang="EN-US">6.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US">The Post-Transition IANA governance and Customer Standing Committee structures, also required by the CWG-Stewardship’s proposal.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I believe this language to be consistent with Sharon's draft and so the CCWG-Accountability will proceed with this language, unless we hear otherwise from you. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The lawyers in drafting the relevant bylaws provisions will no doubt recall the further detail spelled out here.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">best<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jordan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 23 July 2015 at 05:15, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Forwarded in response to Jordan Carter’s email questions of 21 July 2015, Subject “CWG Confirmation - Fundamental Bylaws inclusions”</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Flanagan, Sharon [mailto:<a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" target="_blank">sflanagan@sidley.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 22 July 2015 02:16<br><b>To:</b> Client Committee <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [client com] CWG Confirmation - Fundamental Bylaws inclusions</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear Client Committee,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On the CCWG call today the question below was raised as to whether the Separation Review and PTI should be referenced in the CCWG list of fundamental bylaws. Our view is that both the Separation Review and PTI should be listed among the fundamental bylaws for the following reasons: </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">1. The Separation Review is part of the IFR, but we believe it should be specifically called out by referencing the Special IFR, the Separation Process and the SCWG.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">2. With respect to PTI, unlike CSC and IFR which are <b><i>created by</i></b> the ICANN bylaws, PTI will have a separate legal existence and will not be created by the ICANN bylaws. Notwithstanding PTI’s separate legal existence, there are still implementation mechanisms that relate to PTI that should be contemplated by the ICANN bylaws. For example, as the sole member of PTI, ICANN will have certain statutory rights relative to PTI . In order to appropriately limit and direct the </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">transfer and </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">exercise of these membership rights by ICANN, provisions will need to be included in ICANN’s bylaws. These should be fundamental bylaws so that </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">they</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> cannot be easily changed. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">For example,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">- ICANN should not be able to change the composition of the PTI Board that is specified in the PTI articles and bylaws (it can change the people but not the designated seats); </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">- ICANN should not be able to transfer the assets of PTI back to ICANN or to a new entity (absent a separation process that mandates a transfer); </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">- ICANN should not be able to dissolve PTI, etc.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In terms of how the Separation Process and PTI could be implemented in the CCWG proposal fundamental bylaw description attached, we have reflected our comments for CWG’s consideration.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In addition, attached is a portion of the CCWG proposal that relates to the NTIA and CWG dependencies reflecting our proposed comments to the CWG dependencies section.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Please let us know if you would like to discuss. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kinds regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sharon</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">SHARON</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <b>FLANAGAN</b></span><span lang="EN-US"><br></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Partner</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sidley Austin LLP<br>555 California Street<br>Suite 2000<br>San Francisco, CA 94104<br><a href="tel:%2B1.415.772.1271" target="_blank">+1.415.772.1271</a></span><span lang="EN-US"><br></span><span 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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:%2B1.415.772.1271" target="_blank">+1.415.772.1271</a><br><a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" title="Click to send email to Flanagan, Sharon" target="_blank">sflanagan@sidley.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Jordan Carter [<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson; Lise Fuhr; Flanagan, Sharon<br><b>Cc:</b> ACCT-Staff; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Mathieu Weill; Becky Burr; Steve DelBianco; Cheryl Langdon-Orr; Accountability Cross Community<br><b>Subject:</b> CWG Confirmation - Fundamental Bylaws inclusions</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Jonathan, Lise, Sharon</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">On the CCWG-Accountability call today, we discussed the fundamental bylaws paper and the relationship with the requirements of the CWG-Stewardship's proposal.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">There has been some discussion as to whether we should reference the PTI structure, and the Separation review, alongside the CSC and the IANA Functions Review in our Second Public Comment Report.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">The last two items have been in the draft for a while. The first two have come in and out and as you can see from the <b>attached</b>, are currently out.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">We are relaxed I think about including them or not including them but seek your formal guidance on the question -- and if you have any, specific guidance as to the right way to reference if they are included.<br clear="all"></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I'd appreciate your feedback by close of play Wednesday UTC if possible so we can resolve this on the CCWG-Accountability's next call on Thursday 23rd.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Many thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Jordan Carter</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Rapporteur, Work Party 1 (Community Empowerment)</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">CCWG-Accountability</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Jordan Carter<br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><br><br>04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)<br><a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<br><br><i>A better world through a better Internet </i><br><br></div></div></div></div>
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