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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I wanted to follow up on the exchange from last week on this issue. <span style="font-family: Calibri;">While we are working on accountability issues in this group, one of the areas that we should make sure we
are addressing appropriately is the governance structure of the board work at ICANN. ICANN has a very healthy track record of striving for excellence is in the governance structure of our Board.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">
</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Board decisions are carefully made, and decisions are published with detailed minutes and rationales supporting each decision.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">
</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> Conflict of Interest rules are carefully followed and discussed within that record of the meetings.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">
</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">The Enhancing ICANN Accountability process should not change that. </span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">The ICANN community – well before the 2008 IRS guidelines were issued – focused on having a substantial number of its voting directors
as independent. For more than a decade ICANN’s Nominating Committee has sought to consider independence of directors as part of its consideration in selection. Annually it has long received briefings from the General Counsel on the issue of independence,
as well as ICANN’s practices in identifying conflicts of interest in the Boardroom. A sample of the presentation accompanying that briefing is attached. After discussion with the community, ICANN’s conflicts of interest practices were strengthened in 2012.
The community has never accepted that only a minimum standard of governance should be what ICANN strives for, but that we should have excellent standards in this regard. As we all work to continue on the path to strengthening ICANN’s accountability, it is
important that we do not do anything to weaken our governance practices.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri;"><font size="3">If there is ever a time when making sure that independence of a Board member is considered, it is at the crisis point that ICANN would
be at if a Board recall ever happened. At that time, ICANN would need to take affirmative steps to insure that institutional confidence remained in the organization, and it would be very important to consider the legitimacy and stability of the organization,
including demonstrating that the Board is populated with a substantial number of directors who are able to act without conflict of interest, or not seen as “insiders” seated under emergency circumstances. <o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri;">Holding ICANN to a higher governance standard should not be seen as a weakness, but a sign of strength. It can be seen as a tool to demand higher accountability. This has been part of the Enhancing ICANN Accountability
conversation on many fronts. For example, while the law might allow for removal of a community-appointed director because, as one participant on this list said “we’re just not that into you”, how does that help ensure that ICANN directors perform their duties
without concerns of their own self-interest in retaining their position? Will that demonstrate stability to the global Internet community watching ICANN as a model of multistakeholderism? That has served as part of the call by some for objective standards
to precede removal, so that we can help demonstrate that ICANN is comprised not only of people who take into account the views of those who seated them, but also the broader, global interest that directors are required to serve. Making sure that we don’t
take steps to minimize the independent voices on our Board – even if for just a short time – is another way to help insist that ICANN remains ahead of the curve. </span>
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<div>I disagree that imposing a requirement for independence of (at least a substantial number) of the “caretaker” board can be held off to WS2.<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Gregory, Holly" <<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>>, Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:samantha.eisner@icann.org">samantha.eisner@icann.org</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>,
Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Input such as this would be well placed for WS2 when we set out the criteria for interim board member selection, we can ensure that we place such
a requirement into the SOACs for interim Director Selection if we feel that we may run into board governance/balance issues even given Holly’s feedback below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Gregory, Holly [<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Samantha Eisner; James Gannon; Thomas Rickert; Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="08896adb-c2fb-4148-844c-9246cce7fcdc"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I think the independence standards should be fairly easily satisfied unless ICANN has created an independence definition that is
more rigorous than required. Also the IRS Regs are disclosure based and one could disclose a smaller number of independents and the rationale. I am aware of no circumstance in which 501c3 status has been put at risk for having for a very short period of time
a smaller number of independent directors. <br>
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Sent with Good (<a href="http://www.good.com">www.good.com</a>)<strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></strong></span></p>
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on behalf of Samantha Eisner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 04:15:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Gannon; Thomas Rickert; Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">
accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I understand that there is need for expediency in seating what we’re referring to as the “interim” board, but I do not support the rush to proscribe who can
seat members on the Board if we’re not having the companion conversation of making sure that that selection process is geared towards requiring a sufficient number of “independent” directors – as defined through the United States IRS regs governing not-for-profits.
ICANN is obligated to make annual filings with the IRS; in those filings, it must identify the number of “independent” directors on its Board. There is IRS guidance that the Board should not be dominated by those who are not independent. There is IRS guidance
that confirms that the IRS reviews whether organizations with 501c3 status have independent directors. While “independent” directors can – and sometimes do - come from the SO/AC appointment process, historically, the NomCom has been the source from which
ICANN has met the independence requirement. We should take caution that we are not designing a process that could put ICANN’s 501c3 status at risk, or at minimum, does not operate in line with the governing body guidance given by the IRS. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:15 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>>, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ok I for one am getting confused I thought the suggestion was up to 2?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think we need a clear set of options to deliberate on.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My suggestion to those options:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Suggestion: The NomCom may choose to nominate up to 2 directors to the interim board at the same time as the directors from the SO/ACs are nominated.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Reason: I don’t agree that we allow NomCom to appoint a full selection, the interim board should be small and should not be a full complement, that
it a matter for the full replacement board, the interim board needs to be knowledgeable, agile and able to respond quickly to change in a time of crisis.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-James Gannon</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">
accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I suggest we say NomCom shall not put up less than two. <br>
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That should give enough flexibility to cover all wishes that were brought forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">PS - Sent from my cell. Please excuse typos and brevity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Am 23.07.2015 um 20:41 schrieb Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black;">I think this point has moved on a bit, based on the call earlier today. The NomCom will not be putting up alternates. I believe where we are now is that the NomCom will (in
the event of a spill) put up at least two and possibly up to eight interim directors at that time. I'm not sure but they may have the option of not putting up directors at all, but I think that did not come out on top in the call.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">I agree with this as well, although I thought there was clear direction on this subject in Paris.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I agree with not asking the NomCom to put up alternates. Spilling the Board should be so exceptional and a smaller exe board should be able to then launch a process, which could
result in both elections and in appointments.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:13:13 +0100<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:malcolm@linx.net" target="_blank">malcolm@linx.net</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>; <a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] updated paper: Recall of the ICANN Board<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 23/07/2015 11:18, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
> > See my edits in the files beginning with 2015-07-23.<br>
> <br>
> One comment: I thought the general view in Paris was that NomCom would<br>
> not nominate members of an interim Board. I doubt the practicality of<br>
> requiring it to do so.<br>
> <br>
> That seems to have changed; perhaps I missed some discussion. Or<br>
> misperceived the general view.<br>
> <br>
> Requiring NomCom to put up alternates at the AGM creates the "people<br>
> standing in the shadows waiting for a chance" that were mentioned as a<br>
> prospect to be avoided, and was accepted as a reason for not requiring<br>
> SOs and ACs to nominate alternates with every appointment.<br>
> <br>
> Moreover, how will NomCom find people willing to commit to drop<br>
> everything and become an interim director in the unlikely event of a<br>
> Board spill, knowing that it is highly unlikely this will ever come to<br>
> pass?<br>
> <br>
> It is surely much easier to ask someone "Will you agree to serve as a<br>
> director now?" than "Will you agree to serve as a director in an<br>
> unspecified number of months, should some very unlikely event come to<br>
> pass?".<br>
> <br>
> For these reasons, I think that excusing NomCom from nominating interim<br>
> directors is a better choice.<br>
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