<div dir="ltr">Nope, I don't disagree - quite the opposite in respect of the way ICANN operates as an organisation. And so I hope that the work that has recently begun in working out how best to carry those obligations into ICANN's framework comes to a successful conclusion.<div><br></div><div>The legal analysis we have is that there is no material change to ICANN's obligations arising from the end of the IANA functions contract (at least, that is how I read it). </div><div><br></div><div>So - doing something now, if it is very light touch, is OK - but I believe it is a "nice to have" for Work Stream 1 rather than a necessity given the practical impact is so limited.</div><div><br></div><div>Whether or not it happens WS1, 2 or more organically, I look forward to the commitment being undertaken appropriately when it happens -which I think it both should, and will.</div><div><br></div><div>Ever yours,</div><div><br></div><div>Jordan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 July 2015 at 22:46, Nigel Roberts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Imposing /any/ requirements on the policies on ccTLDs is outside of ICANN scope (unless you can show me authority otherwise).<br>
So this is actually a non-question and a straw-man argument.<br>
<br>
But I would say that in carrying out the IANA contract ICANN should, indeed MUST, conduct itself to the highest standards of international norms.<br>
<br>
Fair hearing. Right to free expression. Right to property.<br>
All controversial things like that.<br>
<br>
You'd disagree?<span class=""><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30/07/15 11:34, Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
Should ICANN impose global human rights norms on the policies of ccTLDs,<br>
in your view?<br>
<br>
Jordan<br>
<br>
On 30 July 2015 at 22:29, Nigel Roberts <<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a><br></span><div><div class="h5">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
With respect to Avri, whose position I very much apprecite on these<br>
matter I certainly would object to that formulation mostloudly since<br>
it appears extremely well drafted with the design of excluding all<br>
the other fundamental rights.<br>
<br>
I'm not even going to make a list of what they are (you can look at<br>
hte Europan Union Charter at<br>
<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/justice/fundamental-rights/charter/index_en.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ec.europa.eu/justice/fundamental-rights/charter/index_en.htm</a>)<br>
<br>
But fair hearing and a right to private life are right in the middle<br>
of ICANN's work.<br>
<br>
What is absolutely unacceptable is anything weaker than.<br>
<br>
"Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will be committed<br>
to respect, and ensure the respect of, fundamental human rights".<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30/07/15 09:16, Drazek, Keith wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi Avri,<br>
<br>
In order to tie your suggestion directly to the language in<br>
Secretary Strickling's April 2014 written congressional<br>
testimony (included in a prior email) and to reduce concerns<br>
about scope creep, would language along these lines be<br>
acceptable to you?<br>
<br>
"Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will be<br>
committed to respect the fundamental human rights of the<br>
exercise of free expression and the free flow of information."<br>
<br>
<br>
Speaking personally, I could probably support this formulation.<br>
To be clear, I have not discussed this with the RySG, but it's<br>
consistent with the requirements outlined by NTIA so I think<br>
it's certainly worth considering.<br>
<br>
I'm not advocating including this in the Bylaws, but I'm not<br>
objecting to it either. However, if we don't reach consensus for<br>
adding to the Bylaws, I definitely think this is worth further<br>
consideration in WS2 and would support an explicit reference<br>
using this or similar language and timetable for doing so.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Keith<br>
<br>
On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a><br></div></div><span class="">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Within its mission, ICANN will be committed to respect<br>
fundamental<br>
human rights in its operationsespecially with regard to<br>
the exercise<br>
of free expression or the free flow of information.<br>
<br>
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