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    +1.  The UN Declaration is the recognized bedrock, really.  However,
    the convenants are where things get specific.  Requires further
    work, which fortunately is already started in the Human Rights
    community working party.<br>
    As for ICANN taking tangible action...may I humbly suggest that
    dropping the public meeting of the Board and the NCSG would go a
    long way to compliance with Article 5...<br>
    (that is the one on torture, to save you looking it
    up....http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/)<br>
    Stephanie Perrin<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-07-30 18:44, Chris Disspain
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        <div class=""><font class="" color="#232323">Irrespective of
            whether this ends up in WS 1 or 2 we really do need to do
            the work to define what we mean by the words we use. What
            are fundamental human rights? Whose definition are we using?
            And it would be really useful to have some examples
            of something concrete ICANN would have to do if it made this
            commitment or something it would not be able to do.</font>
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          <div class=""><font class="" color="#232323">If we are not
              prepared or equipped to do that work now then this MUST go
              to WS 2 IMO. If we are prepared to do the work now I’m
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              <p class="p2">Chris</p>
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                <div class="">Good question! The waters got muddy at the
                  end. I appears as though there was a simple majority
                  in favor of something being in there and, given that,
                  a simple majority in favor of Greg's language. I don't
                  know what that means for the draft that will go out to
                  the public. There was talk of another poll on the
                  listserv to capture more folks.<br class="">
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                  80% sure you don't need to draft anything and Greg
                  will need to draft an inline objection on behalf of
                  part of the CSG....but who knows?<br class="">
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                  Jonathan Zuck<br class="">
                  President<br class="">
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                  ________________________________________<br class="">
                  From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
                    class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
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                    href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
                    class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;
                  on behalf of Avri Doria &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;<br
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                  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:27 PM<br class="">
                  To: Accountability Cross Community<br class="">
                  Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on
                  human rights.<br class="">
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                  Dear esteemed chairs,<br class="">
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                  Perhaps it was because I was following only the chat,
                  but I cannot tell<br class="">
                  where the issue was left.  I am sorry I could not stay
                  on the call, but<br class="">
                  I had a classroom of students I was guiding through a
                  multistakeholder<br class="">
                  practicum. i.e I was working, for pay even.<br
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                  Does the reference recommendation currently include a
                  bylaw on Human Rights?<br class="">
                  If so, which one?<br class="">
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                  I am trying to decide on whether I need to spend
                  tonight finishing my<br class="">
                  minority report or not.<br class="">
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                  Also Is the deadline for the minority reports that
                  want to be include in<br class="">
                  the report still Friday at 1800 utc?<br class="">
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                  Thanks<br class="">
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                  avri<br class="">
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