<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I'm been resisting using that self same wisecrack about the public forum for quite some time, since it's makes light of such a serious matter.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">But I laughed out loud at it despite that.</span></div><div><br></div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 31 Jul 2015, at 00:15, Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au">ceo@auda.org.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">LOL!<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Jul 2015, at 09:13 , Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">+1. The UN Declaration is the recognized bedrock, really. However, the convenants are where things get specific. Requires further work, which fortunately is already started in the Human Rights community working party.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">As for ICANN taking tangible action...may I humbly suggest that dropping the public meeting of the Board and the NCSG would go a long way to compliance with Article 5...</span><br style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">(that is the one on torture, to save you looking it up....</span><a href="http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/</a><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Stephanie Perrin</span><br style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 2015-07-30 18:44, Chris Disspain wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:ECBC4A72-DD24-43A2-A600-DC9ADBD78422@auda.org.au" type="cite" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);" class=""><font class="" color="#232323">All,</font><div class=""><font class="" color="#232323"><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font class="" color="#232323">Irrespective of whether this ends up in WS 1 or 2 we really do need to do the work to define what we mean by the words we use. What are fundamental human rights? Whose definition are we using? And it would be really useful to have some examples of something concrete ICANN would have to do if it made this commitment or something it would not be able to do.</font><div class=""><font class="" color="#232323"><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font class="" color="#232323">If we are not prepared or equipped to do that work now then this MUST go to WS 2 IMO. If we are prepared to do the work now I’m happy to help.</font><br class=""><div class=""><p class="p1"><br class=""></p><p class="p1"><br class=""></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251);" class="">Cheers,</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251); min-height: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(148, 67, 251);" class="">Chris</div></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Jul 2015, at 08:37 , Jonathan Zuck <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:JZuck@actonline.org" class="">JZuck@actonline.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Good question! The waters got muddy at the end. I appears as though there was a simple majority in favor of something being in there and, given that, a simple majority in favor of Greg's language. I don't know what that means for the draft that will go out to the public. There was talk of another poll on the listserv to capture more folks.<br class=""><br class="">80% sure you don't need to draft anything and Greg will need to draft an inline objection on behalf of part of the CSG....but who knows?<br class=""><br class="">Jonathan Zuck<br class="">President<br class="">202-331-2130 X 101 |<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jzuck@actonline.org" class="">jzuck@actonline.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Skype: jvzuck<br class=""><br class="">ACT | The App Association<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">________________________________________<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" class="">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Avri Doria <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">avri@acm.org</a>><br class="">Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:27 PM<br class="">To: Accountability Cross Community<br class="">Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on human rights.<br class=""><br class="">Dear esteemed chairs,<br class=""><br class="">Perhaps it was because I was following only the chat, but I cannot tell<br class="">where the issue was left. I am sorry I could not stay on the call, but<br class="">I had a classroom of students I was guiding through a multistakeholder<br class="">practicum. i.e I was working, for pay even.<br class=""><br class="">Does the reference recommendation currently include a bylaw on Human Rights?<br class="">If so, which one?<br class=""><br class="">I am trying to decide on whether I need to spend tonight finishing my<br class="">minority report or not.<br class=""><br class="">Also Is the deadline for the minority reports that want to be include in<br class="">the report still Friday at 1800 utc?<br class=""><br class="">Thanks<br class=""><br class="">avri<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">---<br class="">This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" class="">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></span><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre wrap="" class="">_______________________________________________
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