<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><div>As I look at the record, I see two consecutive meetings where participants voted to include language concerning human rights in the bylaws. It may just be my lack of intellectual capacity, but why are we still talking about whether we are ready to include the language in the bylaws? I thought that decision was made. The only question is what specific language belongs there, given at single meetings multiple versions were approved. Seriously, a 16-4 vote? That's not even close. The cynic in me suggests that if the vote had gone the other way we still would not be discussing the issue. Personally I look forward to receiving public comments on all of this. Confused.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:43 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on human rights.</span>
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Hi,<br />
<br />
I believe that if we are not yet ready to put this in WS1, we need to<br />
keep working on it until we are.<br />
<br />
I believe going to WS1 without a bylaw committing ICANN to respecting<br />
human rights, given the loss of NTIA oversight is a mistake and fails in<br />
meeting our requirements and is thus unacceptable.<br />
<br />
As corporation ICANN has no obligations vis a vis human rights except<br />
for those defined in its bylaws of by its oversight. A vague article<br />
comitting to applicable International laws and covenants is not<br />
sufficient.We have a requirements for openness and the respect for<br />
freedom of expression and the free flow of information and nothing in<br />
our articles of bylaws that commits ICANN to that.<br />
<br />
If you need explicit guideline those can be found in the UN document:<br />
<br />
* * Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights<br />
<http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publications/GuidingPrinciplesBusinessHR_EN.pdf><br />
<http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publications/GuidingPrinciplesBusinessHR_EN.pdf>*<br />
<br />
avri<br />
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On 31-Jul-15 00:44, Chris Disspain wrote:<br />
> All,<br />
><br />
> Irrespective of whether this ends up in WS 1 or 2 we really do need to<br />
> do the work to define what we mean by the words we use. What are<br />
> fundamental human rights? Whose definition are we using? And it would<br />
> be really useful to have some examples of something concrete ICANN<br />
> would have to do if it made this commitment or something it would not<br />
> be able to do.<br />
><br />
> If we are not prepared or equipped to do that work now then this MUST<br />
> go to WS 2 IMO. If we are prepared to do the work now I’m happy to help.<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> Cheers,<br />
><br />
><br />
> Chris<br />
><br />
><br />
>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 08:37 , Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@actonline.org<br />
>> <mailto:JZuck@actonline.org>> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> Good question! The waters got muddy at the end. I appears as though<br />
>> there was a simple majority in favor of something being in there and,<br />
>> given that, a simple majority in favor of Greg's language. I don't<br />
>> know what that means for the draft that will go out to the public.<br />
>> There was talk of another poll on the listserv to capture more folks.<br />
>><br />
>> 80% sure you don't need to draft anything and Greg will need to draft<br />
>> an inline objection on behalf of part of the CSG....but who knows?<br />
>><br />
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>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:27 PM<br />
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>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] so what is the current outcome on human rights.<br />
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>> Dear esteemed chairs,<br />
>><br />
>> Perhaps it was because I was following only the chat, but I cannot tell<br />
>> where the issue was left. I am sorry I could not stay on the call, but<br />
>> I had a classroom of students I was guiding through a multistakeholder<br />
>> practicum. i.e I was working, for pay even.<br />
>><br />
>> Does the reference recommendation currently include a bylaw on Human<br />
>> Rights?<br />
>> If so, which one?<br />
>><br />
>> I am trying to decide on whether I need to spend tonight finishing my<br />
>> minority report or not.<br />
>><br />
>> Also Is the deadline for the minority reports that want to be include in<br />
>> the report still Friday at 1800 utc?<br />
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>> Thanks<br />
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>> avri<br />
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