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I would like to do that as well please.<br>
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<div>and I do not volunteer to participate on the
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<div>+1 like to have such status as well ;-)<br>
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<div>Cheers! <br>
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qualification. And volunteer for the subgroup.<br>
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> On 31 Jul 2015, at 18:01, Paul Twomey
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wrote:<br>
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> +1<br>
> I am sympathetic to the general thrust
of the discussion, but I am DEEPLY worried
about anything which makes ICANN look like a
place were definitions of Human Rights and
their application is discussed. Knowing
how poisonous and constantly aggravating
this is in the UN system, we may end up
inadvertently attracting a whole new set of
diplomats into the GAC which will risk GAC
turning into a very divisive force in the
ICANN structure. (Even in the UN, the
Human Rights battles have resulted in one UN
entity being dismantled (almost unheard of
in UN history) and another established) We
really do not want to go down that path.
So keeping within Mission and being very
specific as to how some clear rights may
apply to specific things ICANN does (eg
freedom of expression in gtld string
applications) will be useful.<br>
><br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
>> On 8/1/15 2:38 AM, James Gannon
wrote:<br>
>> I second Robins support.<br>
>><br>
>> -James<br>
>><br>
>>
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>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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on behalf of Robin Gross <<a
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href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: 31 July 2015 17:37<br>
>> To: Accountability Cross Community<br>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Human
rights - way forward<br>
>><br>
>> I also support this key language
from Keith.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Robin<br>
>><br>
>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:48 AM,
Izumi Okutani wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many thanks to Co-Chairs for
this suggestion on the way forward.<br>
>>> I support the suggested
approach.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> It could also be added
here:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - this assessment and a
firm commitment to add a human rights
related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws
WITHIN ITS DEFINED MISSION<br>
>>> I also support this suggestion
from Keith.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Izumi<br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 2015/08/01 0:24, Drazek,
Keith wrote:<br>
>>>> Thanks to the Co-Chairs.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I support this approach
with one caveat. I expect this is already
understood but needs confirmation.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Consistent with the CCWG
discussions on the issue, when we present
the issue to the public, it must be made
clear that any such bylaw amendment is
limited to ICANN's mission. It cannot be
used as a tool to expand ICANN's mission,
now or in the future. Without this, we do
NOT have consensus to include the reference.
I assume this would fit under the proposed
section:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - the underlying
requirements expressed during the debate,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It could also be added
here:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - this assessment and a
firm commitment to add a human rights
related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws
WITHIN ITS DEFINED MISSION<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks and regards,<br>
>>>> Keith<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:51
AM, Mathieu Weill <<a
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href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr"
target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr"
target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As announced during our
last call, the co-Chairs have reviewed where
we are on this issue. Our group is tasked to
work on the basis of consensus, and we have
focused on assessing where this condition
was met.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It is our conclusion that :<br>
>>>> 1) our group has achieved
consensus on including a human rights
related Commitment in Icann's Bylaws.<br>
>>>> 2) no particular wording
currently proposed achieved consensus.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As a consequence, we
propose to include into the public comment 2
report (in the Mission & Core value
section, a draft is included below)<br>
>>>> - this assessment and a
firm commitment to add a human rights
related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws,<br>
>>>> - the underlying
requirements expressed during the debate,<br>
>>>> - the concrete language
proposals that were considered by our group
so far, as examples<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Finally, given the strong
momentum on the issue, both during the
meeting and on list before and after, and
taking into account the high level of
complexity involved, we suggest to kick off
ASAP a subgroup to further refine the
requirements and assess potential options
based on further studies of the current
situation and "agreed-on" language.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We thank you all for your
understanding and commitment on this topic,
as well as the extensive discussions both on
list and during the calls about this.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As a reminder, Minority
statements filed until Saturday 12.00 UTC
will be incorporated into the report to be
published on Monday. Statements filed after
this deadline will be published online but
not incorporated into the report.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>> Leon, Thomas & Mathieu<br>
>>>> Co-chairs<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>
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>>>> NEW SUBSECTION IN 3A
Mission, Commitmennts & Core Values<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Elaborating an Icann
Commitment to Human Rights<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The CCWG-Accountability
extensively discussed the opportunity to
include into Icann Bylaws a Comittment
related to Human Rights. The group
commissioned a legal analysis of whether the
termination of the IANA contract would
induce changes into Icann's obligations with
regards to Human Rights (LINK). While no
significant issue was found to be directly
linked to the termination of the IANA
contract, the group acknowledged the
recurring debates around the nature of
Icann's accountability towards the respect
of fundamental human rights.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> These discussions
identified the following, non-exhaustive,
list of accountability-related requirements
:<br>
>>>> - the NTIA criteria to
maintain the openness of the Internet,
including free expression and the free flow
of information<br>
>>>> - the need to avoid
extending Icann's mission into content
regulation<br>
>>>> - the importance of
assessing the impact of Icann policies on
Human rights<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Examples of language that
could serve as a Commitment were as follows
:<br>
>>>> - Within its mission and in
its operations, ICANN will be committed to
respect the fundamental human rights of the
exercise of free expression and the free
flow of information.<br>
>>>> - Within its mission and in
it operations, ICANN will be committed to
respect internationally recognized
fundamental human rights.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The group has achieved
consensus on including a human rights
related Commitment in Icann's Bylaws.
However no particular wording currently
proposed achieved consensus. Reiterating its
commitment to elaborate concrete proposals
as part of its mandate, the
CCWG-Accountability is calling for comments
on this approach and the underlying
requirements.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>>
*****************************<br>
>>>> Mathieu WEILL<br>
>>>> AFNIC - directeur g�n�ral<br>
>>>> T�l: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006"
value="+33139308306" target="_blank">+33 1
39 30 83 06</a><br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr"
target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr"
target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br>
>>>> Twitter : @mathieuweill<br>
>>>>
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>>>><br>
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