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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you Thomas for your prompt reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As I said several times, I’m engineer and I’m very bad in polemic.
I only want to remind you that I said: “</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#365F91'>This would be acceptable (and even preferable) if it is
not used as bases for finalizing the text to be submitted to public comment”,
means that I do prefer a larger consultation assuming that the result will not
be used for the text to be submitted for public comment. My point is very
clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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color:#17365D'>Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#17365D'>Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations </span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] <b>De la part de</b>
Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 1 août 2015 15:57<br>
<b>À :</b> tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <accountability-cross-community@icann.org><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Working methods<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear Tijani,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>thank you for your message. Let me respond to your second
concern first. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We have made clear from the start that we did not want to
disginguish between members and participants, but that we are hoping to reach
consensus amongst everyone in our group to get the broadest possible
support. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We will only identify the views of the members in case it is
not possible to reach consensus in the whole group. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We hope you still share our view that this approach is more
inclusive as we try not to seperate members from participants. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Please also note that we have discussed most of the issues
over the last months and the recommendations evolved over time. In deed, the
last days have been demanding for all of us, but - if I may share my personal
experience over more than 15 years - regardless of how long a project
runs there is always a certain intensity towards completion. :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Most of the areas of our work got very strong support by
most in our group and there are only a few questions that I think have caused
your concerns. Especially for the discussions of these, community feedback will
be very valuable. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Remember, we will have 40 days of public comment, during
that time our group will continue the discussion and we will carefully analyze
comments as well as dissenting oipinions from within our group. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The community may confirm all proposals we identified as
getting most traction during discussions. The community may also give us
direction that we need to rethink aspects of our work. Should this be the case,
we will listen, assess and - as the case may be - adjust. Our report is clearly
marked as the second draft, so it is not cast in stone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Let me use this opportunity to thank you for being such a
thoughtful and tireless contributor to our important work. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Have a great weekend,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thomas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://rickert.net">rickert.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Am 01.08.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a
href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>Dear
co-chairs,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#365F91'>I would like to express a general concern about our
working methods:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US
style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:
#365F91'>I do think that the work undertaken by the CCWG is too important and
will impact the future of ICANN and the Internet governance in general. I do
not think that under any circumstance, we should run after a deadline even if
it is imposed by a strong and valid reason because the result may not meet the
interest of ICANN as organization and its community as a whole. I believe that
our work should not be only done; it <b><u>must</u></b> be well done. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'>During our work, we
were pushed to work under very tight time, with several conference calls a day
(we did 12 hours calls in 24 hours, divided in 3 parts). The number of text
proposal was so huge that it was impossible to review and comment on them for a
good participation; as a result, they do not reflect the exact opinion of all
members of the group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'>This makes me wonder
who may really participate and impact the decisions in the group. Anyone who
has another life than the CCWG one would definitely not be able to actively
participle and follow all the language drafted. So, if you are not paid to do
this work (by your government or by your company), you will never manage to
have an efficient participation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'>Since we were asked
by the NTIA to evaluate the time required to finish our work, I was of the view
that we have to take the necessary time for a well debated and agreed result.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'>This doesn’t mean
the work done is not good: I would like here to thank very much the 2
raporteurs Jordan and Beky for their hard work and time and also the 3
co-Chairs for their continuous efforts for consensus building, but some parts
need more discussion and more clarity that couldn’t be reached because of the
time constraint.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'>Finally, I do prefer
stay with the NTIA stewardship rather than transit it to the community without
robust, clear, fair and workable accountability mechanisms accepted by all the
community components.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#365F91'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:
#365F91'>As per our charter, only CCWG members participate in the decision
making process. Also, the decisions should be taken by consensus. I noticed
that when it was necessary to make a straw poll to get the temperature of the
group about an issue where there was no full consensus, it was done with the
participation of the whole people participating in the call, which doesn’t
reflect the temperature of the members allowed to participate in the decision
making. This would be acceptable (and even preferable) if it is not used as
bases for finalizing the text to be submitted to public comment. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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