<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Julie</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for spotting this. As Greg said, this is an initial draft being passed to the CWG and hasn't been reviewed yet.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Therefore, mistakes might be in the document as you have rightly signaled.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The community power remains as proposed and nothing in this matrix changes our current proposal.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I will let know the CWG Chairs and the legal team of this imprecise language so it can be adjusted accordingly.&nbsp;<br><br>Kind regards,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>León</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Enviado desde el móvil. Disculpa brevedad y errores tipográficos.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br>El ago 12, 2015, a las 8:08 AM, Jordan Carter &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt; escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Community approval would problematic at the least. The Board approves the budget. The reserve power is for the community&nbsp;to veto and send it back.<div><br></div><div>Anything else is difficult, at the least...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>J<span></span><br><br>On Thursday, 13 August 2015, Matthew Shears &lt;<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    And I don't think that community approval was what we agreed or was
    intended.<br>
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    <div>On 8/12/2015 1:20 PM, Gomes, Chuck
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">This
            is a very good catch.&nbsp; Requiring community approval of the
            budget would seriously &nbsp;and I think needlessly delay the
            budget process.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:14 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Julie Hammer<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> At-Large Staff; <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>;
            Accountability Cross Community<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] ICANN
            Bylaws Matrix<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Julie,<u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I think you're right. As this was passed
            on to&nbsp;the whole&nbsp;CWG and CCWG without any prior review by any
            subcommittees, it should be considered subject to review and
            comment.<u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Greg Shatan<br>
            <br>
            On Wednesday, August 12, 2015, Julie Hammer &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julie.hammer@bigpond.com');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julie.hammer@bigpond.com');" target="_blank">julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Leon,<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks for sharing this matrix.&nbsp;
                One thing that struck me when having a quick look
                through it was that Sidley have listed at Item 2 (d) the
                following as Subject Matter for a new Fundamental Bylaw:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p><span style="font-size:11.5pt">"Requirement
                          that the ICANN community <span style="color:#ff2600">
                            approve </span>or veto the IANA Budget
                          after it has been approved by the ICANN Board
                          but before it has come into effect."&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">In my understanding, the proposed
                power was to consider and reject (or veto) the IANA
                Budget, but there should be no requirement for the ICANN
                Community to come together and actually
                <span style="color:#ff2600">approve</span>&nbsp;the IANA
                budget. I had not thought that the Community Mechanism
                was intended to be used for such a purpose (ie approving
                strategic plans, operating plans or budgets).<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I believe the relevant paragraph from
                the CCWG 2nd draft report is para 381 on page 58:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                    <p style="margin-left:.5in"><span>379.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        </span></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt">381 &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Accordingly, this new
                        power would give the community the ability to
                        consider strategic and operating plans and
                        budgets (both ICANN general and, separately,
                        with respect to the budget for the IANA
                        Functions) after they are approved by the Board
                        (but before they come into effect) and reject
                        them. The rejection could be of the proposed
                        ICANN Budget or the IANA Budget, or of a
                        proposed ICANN-wide strategic or operating plan.
                        The petition would state which Budget or plan
                        was being subject to veto. A separate petition
                        is required for each Budget or plan being
                        challenged.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps I am misunderstanding
                something, but I don’t think the word ‘approve’ should
                appear in 2 (d) in the Sidley matrix.<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, &nbsp;Julie<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 12 Aug 2015, at 1:56 am, León
                    Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a>leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">I am forwarding this matrix
                        that the CWG is working on as it is of the
                        interest of this group as well and to help us
                        continue shaping our work forward.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">The matrix is intended to
                        help identify those bylaws that, from the scope
                        of the CWG, would need to be considered
                        fundamental. This, of course, is independent
                        from the work we need to do but provides an
                        example on what we can begin crafting ourselves.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">If you want to keep being in
                        the matrix, swallow the blue pill. If you want
                        to work on shaping the matrix, swallow the red
                        pill. (geek joke)<u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">León<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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                          <u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Inicio del mensaje
                            reenviado:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De:
                              </span>
                            </b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">"Flanagan,
                              Sharon" &lt;<a>sflanagan@sidley.com</a>&gt;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Asunto:
                                [client com] ICANN Bylaws Matrix</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fecha:
                              </span></b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">11
                              de agosto de 2015 9:43:05 GMT-5</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Para:
                              </span>
                            </b><span style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Client
                              Committee &lt;<a>cwg-client@icann.org</a>&gt;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dear
                                  All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Attached
                                  is a draft matrix summarizing the
                                  proposed ICANN bylaw changes that
                                  relate to CWG’s final proposal.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Could
                                  you please forward to the CWG?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">SHARON</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<b>FLANAGAN</b></span><br>
                                <span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Partner</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sidley
                                    Austin LLP<br>
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                                  California Street<br>
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