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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The notes, recordings and transcripts for the CCWG ACCT meeting #<span style='color:#1F497D'>50</span> - <span style='color:#1F497D'>25</span> August will be available here: <span style='color:#1F497D'>https://community.icann.org/x/049CAw<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>A copy of the notes and acti<span style='color:#1F497D'>o</span>n items may be found below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you<span style='color:#1F497D'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Brenda<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:22.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM - CoChairs to write correspondence to Board Chair and Board liaison that recognizes legal independence in advice but urges a closer collaboration especially with respect to legal experts. A draft will be circulated on list. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM - Cochairs to send an email to group with references included. Put status of discussion in email and seek confirmation <br>of approach or go with different proposal.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM: Greg, Becky, Steve to follow up on IPC discussion.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM: Alan to relay ALAC concerns on proposed Bylaws revisions</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:22.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Notes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>These high-level notes are designed to help you navigate through content of the call and do not substitute in any way the transcript.</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>2. <b>Preliminary ICANN Board Comments</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Board is scaling up efforts and involved in this. They announced steps that are important for us to be aware of: 1) seeking external counseling input that will be inserted into forum; 2) reaching <br>out to third party experts on governance to assess impact of proposal; 3) they will be using these briefing materials to build their comments. They provide useful examples of concerns e.g. change of role of ACs and new <br>powers that are being granted, risk of paralysis and IRP related concerns. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>We have been trying to organize calls with the Board but have not been able to find a time. Concerns that dialogue is <br>not taking place. Board announcement might turn discussions into expensive battle of experts instead of dialogue. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Feedback:</span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Part of comments are positive. The fact that they are seeking advice should not be criticized but their comment is a warning: we should not be destabilizing delicate balance. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Impression of feedback should have been given earlier in process. Why did they not seek experts feedback earlier? This may <br>delay in process. What are we negotiating? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Board proclaimed desire to discuss issues in BA but no follow up in Paris. What of Bruce's attendance to calls? We need an open and constructive discussion with Board. There needs to be understanding behing report <br>before submitting additional comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- It is normal for the Board seek its own advice. If it implements what we propose and somehow it does not work, ICANN will <br>crash. Important not to create a biased. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Can't argue with wish to have solid and capture-proof model. What we have come up with needs to be looked at carefully. Board taking that on is a good thing. How we deal <br>with problems they identify will be interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- There is a problem of misunderstanding - we have always had Board members with us. They understand what we are doing <br>and it is their responsibility to evaluate. We need to dialogue with Board. The Board has no interest in collapsing our work - they <br>have concerns. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- We have to determine how we can improve dialogue with Board. We can't ensure we will come with a stable proposal to the <br>end. We have minority statements, comments in disagreement etc. We need to see how we will honor that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Next steps is to bring together group to start working on IRP and rules of procedure. Expert report could be extremely <br>damaging and counterproductive. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- It can be extremely helpful if Board comes up with feedback to identify gaps (e.g. staturory rights on first proposal). If the <br>Board comes back to us with counter proposal, based on misunderstandings or information they did not get access to, it will be disastrous. We need to be careful about overall impression of dialogue. We should avoid that Board signals to outside <br>world is that it is derailing transition or community discussion. Suggestion to get back to Board to make the door wide open for <br>dialogue. We should be forthcoming and we suggest writing the Board a letter to avoid complications. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>On corporate advisors, we should share concerns we see with the Board that ICANN has come us with idea of public experts. <br>We did not go far enough in eyes of some advisors with our proposals. Two scenarios can happen: 1) external advisors agree <br>we have not been far enough; 2) external advisors say we went too far - it will be perceived as Board asking for less change. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- It is legitimate for the Board to seek advice but there is value in scheduling a meeting with ICANN Board's legal experts to avoid misunderstandings. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM - CoChairs to write correspondence to Board Chair and Board liaison that recognizes legal independence in advice but urges a closer collaboration especially with respect to legal experts. A draft will be circulated on list. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>3 CWG requirement on Separation CCWG</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Stems from ICG report that states that separation process is kicked off by a working group based on CCWG proposal. Should we build <br>separate process or can we use existing mechanism to set up group?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Feedback:</span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- It is too early to discuss separation and for CCWG to get involved in matters. Suggest that Cochairs discuss with CWG leadership.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Where is it noted that we need to specify process?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- ICG proposal states that CCWG needs to define process. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM - Cochairs to send an email to group with references included. Put status of discussion in email and seek confirmation of <br>approach or go with different proposal.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>4. Human Rights discussion </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Progress includes two discussion starter documents: first draft on high level objective and background briefing. We are in process of closing <br>doodle poll for call this week. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Feedback</span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- We should be concise and high level. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Progress accomplished in upcoming weeks will be shared with CCWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>5. Feedback received by group Members on Second Draft Proposal</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Opportunity to relay initial feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Feedback</span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Simplicity of community mechanism. IPC discussion on contract enforcement. Discussion happening on unintended consequences which is a good sign. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>--> We identified potential ambiguous reference in revised mission. Edit proposed to Core Values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM: Greg, Becky, Steve to follow up on IPC discussion.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Preliminary discussions within GAC: core value 7, voting power of work (participation or not), unclarity on what it is being suggested. Working on ST 18 and core values language. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>- Current model is not ALAC's preference but can live with it. Comparison between current bylaws and changes is needed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>--> Synopsis is on its way. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>ACTION ITEM: Alan to relay ALAC concerns on proposed Bylaws revisions</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>6. ICANN 54</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>CCWG-ACCT 16 Oct Friday 09:00 – 17:00<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Possible engagement session on Monday afternoon either in conjunction with ICG or CCWG alone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:22.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>CCWG-ACCT 22 Oct Thursday 08:00 – 10:00 --> Touch-base to see where we stand with chartering organizations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>7 A.O.B</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333'>/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>