<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello,<br><br></div>Perhaps there is no need to re-invent the wheel on that part of the board's proposal, i think a number of the CMSM mechanism (related to voting threshold/consensus building process) can be applied to MEM as well.<br></div><div><br></div>Regards<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Bruce,<br>
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don't you think that there would still be a risk of capture by "activist" SO/ACs?<br>
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or is there some other kind of brake which would avoid that one or two SO/AC abuse the MEM process to block/paralyse the organisation?<br>
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In addition: when reading the Board proposals I remember this sentence (p. 58): "For example, a decision to exercise the community power could require at least two SOs to support exercising the community power, and no more than one AC providing advice against exercising the community power."<br>
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Would that mean for instance that for example two SOs could prevail with spilling the whole Board, even when another SO would abstain, another AC would oppose and a second AC would be unable to decide due to an internal stalemate?<br>
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Shouldn't it be so that the thresholds should be calculated on the basis of all existing SO and AC? For instance, now we have 3 SOs and 2+2 ACs (if I remember well). Shouldn't the required majority be calculated on that basis?<br>
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Otherwise we could end up with only 2 SOs deciding for the community as a whole - which would not meet the required "multistekeholder" principle.<br>
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thanks<br>
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Jorge<br>
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Betreff: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Regarding definitions of consensus<br>
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Hello Jorge,<br>
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>> If I may add two follow-up questions: are all SO and AC envisaged to participate in the MEM decision-process (i.e. to decide whether a decision is taken or not)?<br>
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No - I think the concept is that all SOs and ACs are informed of the proposed action, and some minimum threshold (presumably more than 1) need to agree to join the SO or AC that initiated the petition for discussion.<br>
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>> What happens if various SO/AC decide not to participate at all in<br>
>> such processes<br>
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Nothing.<br>
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>> and/or is there a minimal threshold of participation in the MEM for the MEM to become operational?<br>
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Yes the idea was that there should be a minimum threshold. We left it to the CCWG to discuss what would be appropriate.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Bruce Tonkin<br>
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