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Completely agree with Greg - escalation and a greater description of
escalation/resolution paths is something that should be worked on.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/09/2015 07:16, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+aOHUS1dr0Ts++V=6yf_XUFLrhQGkZEUBee3TzQn1c6pWoBTg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">To pick up one of of Thomas's points: Clarifying and
illustrating escalation paths (or perhaps we should more
optimistically call them "resolution paths") would be very
helpful. We (and others) spend a lot of time talking about "last
resorts," in part because it's not supremely clear that they come
only at the end of a road, which hopefully we get to the end of
only rarely<span></span>.
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<div>Greg<br>
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On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Thomas Rickert <<a
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<div>All,</div>
<div>I to not want to get into a legal argument, but want to
offer an observation. There is a lot of talk about
accountability of the community. This is important, no
doubt about that. </div>
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<div>But, let's not forget that decisions will not be made
by the Community or the Single Member, but by the Board.
The community powers are limited to asking the Board to
redo decisions (with the exception of changes of
Fundamental Bylaws that need approval). The new decision
is still to be made by the Board. If Board members are of
the opinion that the Community asks them to do illegal
things or things that might expose them to liability or
just things that are fundamentally wrong, I am sure the
Board member would not be available for that. </div>
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<div>That means that you need a rogue Community trying to
force the Board to do wrong things and - for the wrong
things to be resolved - a rogue Board, too. </div>
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<div>I am adding this thought to the discussion as I get the
impression that some think that the Single Member would
replace the Board as a decision-making body.</div>
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<div>Also, let us please remember that there will and must
be consultation between the Board and the Community before
decisions on the areas where the Community Powers are
concerned, are taken. We should maybe think about making
this element more visible as it lowers the risk of
friction. </div>
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<div>Also, let me add that we should not focus on Community
vs Board accountability / responsiblity. It is a joint
responsibility and mutual accountability is what we need.</div>
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<div>Thomas</div>
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Am 22.09.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Bruce Tonkin <<a
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<div><span>Hello Avri,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span> I think that the
fiduciary responsibility does not change. </span><br>
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<span>Yes - that is my understanding of the role of a
Board director in any model. </span><br>
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<span>Regards,</span><br>
<span>Bruce Tonkin</span><br>
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