<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Thanks Thomas.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">But, let's not forget that decisions will not be made by the Community or the Single Member, but by the Board. The community powers are limited to asking the Board to redo decisions (with the exception of changes of Fundamental Bylaws that need approval). The new decision is still to be made by the Board. If Board members are of the opinion that the Community asks them to do illegal things or things that might expose them to liability or just things that are fundamentally wrong, I am sure the Board member would not be available for that. </div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And then what?</div></div></div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Sep 2015, at 16:08 , Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" class="">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">All,</div><div class="">I to not want to get into a legal argument, but want to offer an observation. There is a lot of talk about accountability of the community. This is important, no doubt about that. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But, let's not forget that decisions will not be made by the Community or the Single Member, but by the Board. The community powers are limited to asking the Board to redo decisions (with the exception of changes of Fundamental Bylaws that need approval). The new decision is still to be made by the Board. If Board members are of the opinion that the Community asks them to do illegal things or things that might expose them to liability or just things that are fundamentally wrong, I am sure the Board member would not be available for that. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That means that you need a rogue Community trying to force the Board to do wrong things and - for the wrong things to be resolved - a rogue Board, too. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am adding this thought to the discussion as I get the impression that some think that the Single Member would replace the Board as a decision-making body.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, let us please remember that there will and must be consultation between the Board and the Community before decisions on the areas where the Community Powers are concerned, are taken. We should maybe think about making this element more visible as it lowers the risk of friction. </div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Also, let me add that we should not focus on Community vs Board accountability / responsiblity. It is a joint responsibility and mutual accountability is what we need.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thomas</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 13pt;" class="">---</span></div><div class=""><a href="http://rickert.net/" class="">rickert.net</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class="">Am 22.09.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" class="">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">Hello Avri,</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""> I think that the fiduciary responsibility does not change. </span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Yes - that is my understanding of the role of a Board director in any model. </span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Regards,</span><br class=""><span class="">Bruce Tonkin</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></span></body></html>