If we are in a negotiation, we need to know that....<span></span><br><br>On Saturday, September 26, 2015, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Some of us feel that membership is the only viable means to implement the level of accountability that we require.</div>
<div>I have a more open mind than some people participating in these conversations and will be open to constructive dialogue, but not to being talked down to and being told that we need to change the fundamentals of our proposal because one stakeholder (Albeit
an important one) has disagreed with the work and the outcome of the community process. And I’m getting a little tired of such points being repeated.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday 26 September 2015 18:03<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>James Gannon<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Kavouss Arasteh, Dr Eberhard W Lisse, Lisse Eberhard, Accountability Cross Community<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<br>
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<div>@James without making any preference on what have been shared, I think you seem to focus on the model and not necessarily the required community powers (which is the accountability enhancement).<br>
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Membership is not a requirement for accountability and certainly its not a requirement by NTIA. What is a requirement is proof that ICANN would be more accountable post-transition (and I said ICANN because its include not just board/staff but also the community).<br>
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<div>So I suggest we approach this with a more open mind and focus on what is required and not what we want.<br>
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But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a huge change.<br>
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On 26/09/2015 17:43, "<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>
on behalf of <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Dear All<br>
>There is community mechanism through standing Panel<br>
>Pls kindly read the text more carefully<br>
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>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','el@lisse.NA');" target="_blank">el@lisse.NA</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.<br>
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>>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
>>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.<br>
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