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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Ahh James – the Board is not a stakeholder. It is the representative of people with an actual stake in the matter – the SOs, the users, and the builders. Management is never a “stakeholder” in that sense of the word. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul Rosenzweig<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweigesq@redbranchconsulting.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>O: +1 (202) 547-0660<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>M: +1 (202) 329-9650<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=9"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Link to my PGP Key</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> James Gannon [mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 26, 2015 1:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org>; Lisse Eberhard <directors@omadhina.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Some of us feel that membership is the only viable means to implement the level of accountability that we require.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I have a more open mind than some people participating in these conversations and will be open to constructive dialogue, but not to being talked down to and being told that we need to change the fundamentals of our proposal because one stakeholder (Albeit an important one) has disagreed with the work and the outcome of the community process. And I’m getting a little tired of such points being repeated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>-james<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Seun Ojedeji<br><b>Date: </b>Saturday 26 September 2015 18:03<br><b>To: </b>James Gannon<br><b>Cc: </b>Kavouss Arasteh, Dr Eberhard W Lisse, Lisse Eberhard, Accountability Cross Community<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>@James without making any preference on what have been shared, I think you seem to focus on the model and not necessarily the required community powers (which is the accountability enhancement).<br><br>Membership is not a requirement for accountability and certainly its not a requirement by NTIA. What is a requirement is proof that ICANN would be more accountable post-transition (and I said ICANN because its include not just board/staff but also the community).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>So I suggest we approach this with a more open mind and focus on what is required and not what we want.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 9:45 AM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a huge change.<br></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>-James</span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br><br><br><br>On 26/09/2015 17:43, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>>Dear All<br>>There is community mechanism through standing Panel<br>>Pls kindly read the text more carefully<br>>Kavousd<br>><br>>Sent from my iPhone<br>><br>>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.NA">el@lisse.NA</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Thank you,<br>>><br>>> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.<br>>><br>>> el<br>>><br>>>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:<br>>>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.<br>>>><br>>>> Jordan<br>>> [...]<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br>>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" 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clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#006600'>Seun Ojedeji,<br>Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>web: </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#888888'><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#006600'>Mobile: +2348035233535</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#888888'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#006600'>alt email:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a></span></i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#888888'>Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action!<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>