I'm pretty sure the NTIA has no feeling at all on the membership model beyond whether it can get enough support.<br><br>What both Strickling and Magaziner want is a solution rather than a punch up.<br><br>I'm a little saddened that Steve decided to do what he did. And I'm disappointed that the Board is for whatever reason unable to act with humility. But then if it were able to act how we feel it ought to, this conversation wouldn't be happening.<br><br>As for this talk about people's hidden motivations, I'm surprised to hear that from you Stephen. That's level of baseless paranoia is normally reserved for the alpha males on the Board.<br><br><br>Kieren<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:55 PM Stephen Deerhake <<a href="mailto:sdeerhake@nic.as">sdeerhake@nic.as</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I'm not sure that all the "blame" should go to Steve and the Board.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">It is very clear to me, from both the recent blog post, and what Larry Strickland said yesterday, that NTIA will REJECT the proposal as it's shaping up, both because of its complexity and because of the proposed membership model.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">What Larry stated yesterday was reinforced today by Ira. Thus it's my contention that if the WG continues down this path, this project will fail. Maybe that's what some members of the WG want; I don't know…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cheers.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Stephen Deerhake<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan Carter<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> CCWG Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Summary of current Board sentiment<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think it is worth also putting on the record Steve's clarification in the Adobe room:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"The Board does not support the single member model. We are unified in wanting to work with the community to find practical solutions to achieve the additional levels of accountability sought by the community including the ability to remove Board members and the whole Board, requiring community approval of bylaws changes, and requiring the Board to work with the community to reach consensus on strategic plans, operating plans and budgets." <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My understanding from this and from the rest of Steve's remarks this afternoon is quite clear: it is that if the CCWG comes to consensus around the Single Member model, the Board will not accept that proposal.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Bruce, Steve, any other directors: <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If I am wrong, please let me know.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jordan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 26 September 2015 at 17:05, Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Hello All,<br><br>I am hearing that there may have been some misunderstandings of Steve's comments earlier about the willingness of the Board to work with the CCWG and the wider community on implementing the accountability improvements.<br><br>I just want to clarify:<br><br>The Board supports the Board public comments that were sent a couple weeks ago.<br><br>The Board supports the improvements to accountability recommended by the CCWG - including improvements to the IRP, processes to remove Board members and the whole Board, requiring community approval of bylaws changes, and requiring the Board to work with the community to reach consensus on strategic plans, operating plans and budgets.<br><br>The Board is very open to continuing to work with the CCWG to find the most effective way of implementing these important accountability changes. The Board put forward the MEM proposal for consideration by the CCWG as an alternative to the single member model for enforcement of new accountability measures in the bylaws, but recognizes that there may be other alternatives that are more effective. The discussions in the CCWG this afternoon highlight that there is a way forward to discuss how to effectively implement the accountability improvements.<br><br>Regards,<br>Bruce Tonkin<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" target="_blank">Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jordan Carter<br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>+64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob)<br>Email: <a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</span></a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Web: <a href="http://www.internetnz.nz" target="_blank">www.internetnz.nz</a> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><i>A better world through a better Internet </i><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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