<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Some of the due diligence has already been done. But a third round ob public comments would almost certainly be in the cards.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Phil Corwin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So in essence we have a situation where the path forward, if based on designator model, may require several steps backward to perform due diligence.<br>
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</span>From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<br>
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Agree 100% Mike - very important points as to process.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Chartier, Mike S<br>
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<br>
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It might be the case that a non-membership model could be created that was acceptable and achieve consensus. However there is a fundamental difference in CA law between a member and a no-member org, so it's a major decision.<br>
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The first draft CCWG proposal, sent for public consultation, proposed to change ICANN to a membership model.<br>
The "interim" model emerging out of BA was a potential, or "springing" membership model.<br>
The second CCWG proposal developed in Paris, and sent for a second public consultation was a membership model.<br>
In both consultations, while there were many questions, there was also general support for a membership model.<br>
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This is not to say that the proposal eventually sent to the NTIA has to be a membership model, but there would seem to be a process problem in submitting a proposal to NTIA that was not a membership model, but was not vetted to the same extent that the first two proposals were.<br>
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<br>
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Sometimes you should "just say no."<br>
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The community membership model is the core of what the community needs to actually enforce its interests ...<br>
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To: Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>; Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA><br>
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Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal<br>
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But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a huge change.<br>
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On 26/09/2015 17:43, "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
on behalf of <a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Dear All<br>
>There is community mechanism through standing Panel Pls kindly read<br>
>the text more carefully Kavousd<br>
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>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> wrote:<br>
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>> Thank you,<br>
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>> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.<br>
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>>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:<br>
>>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.<br>
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>>> Jordan<br>
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