<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Avri, Jordan, and all,&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Happy to follow this suggestion around review of agenda. I would agree in principle with Jordan about providing agenda and documents upfront, this is clearly our target, but I'm reluctant to carve it in stone and be held accountable to it, because it is often challenging to coordinate in time.&nbsp;<br><br><div>Mathieu Weill</div><div>Autocrat co-chair</div><div>---------------</div><div>Depuis mon mobile, désolé pour le style</div></div><div><br>Le 28 sept. 2015 à 19:47, Jordan Carter &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt; a écrit&nbsp;:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I suggest we add a first agenda item "Review of Agenda" to all meetings, and secondly that as we get back into stride, draft agendas are circulated for review and debate where possible - and a final agenda taking that into account arriving no later than 12h before the meeting (pref 24h).<div><br></div><div>J</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 September 2015 at 06:14, Avri Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
By and large looks reasonable.<br>
<br>
on slide 7<br>
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&gt; co-ordination by new small group (SO/AC reps, Board, Lawyers, ) to<br>
&gt; limit risk of friction, no decision making.<br>
<br>
While seeing this as possibly useful, I would also hope to minimize the<br>
amount of topic framing and agenda setting done by this smaller<br>
authoritative group.<br>
<br>
Which points to another issue, which is the degree to which the agendas<br>
for meetings are not subject to participant review and especially that<br>
the opening of the meeting does not give the participants the ability to<br>
amend the agenda.&nbsp; While I respect the difficulty of the problems the<br>
chairs must deal with, I do believe that they have been a&nbsp; bit too<br>
autocratic at times and that this has, perhaps, interfered with our<br>
ability to resolve issues.&nbsp; For example the fact that we were prevented<br>
from discussing the implications of the competing models in this last<br>
F2F meeting have left us with unexplored fundamental disagreements and<br>
questions that should have been asked.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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On 28-Sep-15 12:47, Mathieu Weill wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear Colleagues,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In anticipation of a discussion during our meeting tomorrow, please<br>
&gt; find attached a set of slides to suggest a way forward, for the<br>
&gt; group's consideration.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thank you for your feedbacks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; Thomas, Leon &amp; Mathieu<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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