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    Absolutely agree.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/09/2015 23:36, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+aOHUSRUkzekSHk79KSrqTwZ7YY+Tt+QYdfTdQz315M5KVCgw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Time to <span></span>activate this part of the team.<br>
      <br>
      On Monday, September 28, 2015, Jordan Carter &lt;<a
        moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a></a>&gt;
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        <div dir="ltr">The sooner the better. All the others are players
          in this drama.
          <div>Jordan</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 29 September 2015 at 16:20, Avri
            Doria <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@acm.org');"
                target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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                On 28-Sep-15 22:35, Steve DelBianco wrote:<br>
                &gt; Ed — An excellent idea.  In fact, Cam Kerry and
                Rick Boucher could<br>
                &gt; advise CCWG via email right away.  Their insights
                could help us plan<br>
                &gt; what we do in the days leading to Dublin.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; From: &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');"
                  target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
              </span>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org');"
                target="_blank">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;&gt;
              on behalf<br>
              &gt; of Edward Morris<br>
              &gt; Reply-To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','egmorris1@toast.net');"
                target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','egmorris1@toast.net');"
                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a></a>&gt;"<br>
              <div>
                <div>&gt; Date: Monday, September 28, 2015 at 9:46 PM<br>
                  &gt; To: Accountability Cross Community<br>
                  &gt; Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Cruz / NTIA: Time to Get
                  Expert Advice<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Hello everybody,<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Some of the unknowns facing this group going
                  forward are as much<br>
                  &gt; political in nature as they are substantive or
                  procedural. Do we take<br>
                  &gt; the opinion and perspective of Senator Ted Cruz
                  seriously? Is it a<br>
                  &gt; threat to the transition? Is there something that
                  we can do to be<br>
                  &gt; responsive to the genuine concerns of Senator
                  Cruz? Are his concerns<br>
                  &gt; genuine?<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; What about the NTIA? The deference shown to
                  Secretary Strickling among<br>
                  &gt; some of us here is almost Papal in nature. What
                  did Larry say, how did<br>
                  &gt; Larry say it, what did he really mean when he
                  said it but really<br>
                  &gt; didn't say it. It's a bit ridiculous. I admire
                  Secretary Strickling.<br>
                  &gt; He's a fine civil servant. His published salary,
                  though, is less than<br>
                  &gt; that of a first year associate from a decent law
                  school at a mid sized<br>
                  &gt; corporate law firm. He is not the all mighty.
                  Commerce and the NTIA<br>
                  &gt; are complex places. Larry has absolute control of
                  neither.<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; I've read here today a legal analysis of the
                  Senator's Constitutional<br>
                  &gt; challenge by someone I know to be neither an
                  American nor a lawyer. I<br>
                  &gt; can click both boxes and I have my views but am I
                  sure I'm right? No.<br>
                  &gt; It seems everyone here has an opinion as to what
                  the NTIA will or will<br>
                  &gt; not accept from us. Do any of us really know? No.<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Prior to the Los Angeles meeting it was suggested
                  that we might want<br>
                  &gt; to hear from ICANN's lobbyists, that they could
                  explain to us their<br>
                  &gt; version of political reality. We properly
                  rejected that offer. I think<br>
                  &gt; we've reached the point, though, where we do need
                  to call upon the<br>
                  &gt; expertise of some Washington political
                  professionals to help guide us<br>
                  &gt; through this part of the process. No more
                  guesswork by amateurs or<br>
                  &gt;  implied threats by those with some self-interest
                  in the matter. We're<br>
                  &gt; talking about who is going to run a vital part of
                  the most powerful<br>
                  &gt; communications technology in human history. We
                  need to do this<br>
                  &gt; right. Fortunately, we've already retained two
                  such individuals who,<br>
                  &gt; if we wish, have the expertise and ability to
                  assist us in this area.<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Back in the early days of this project when we
                  were all young,<br>
                  &gt; innocent and hopeful :)  we retained not one but
                  two law firms to help<br>
                  &gt; guide us. In retrospect that decision and two
                  firms we chose to<br>
                  &gt; hire were amongst the best decisions we've made
                  in this CCWG. I have<br>
                  &gt; complete faith in our lawyers and that is a
                  rarity for me. I<br>
                  &gt; note  that one of the specific reasons we hired
                  Sidley was for their<br>
                  &gt; Washington ties and expertise. During our
                  interviews with the firm we<br>
                  &gt; were able to meet two of their professionals with
                  the greatest<br>
                  &gt; knowledge of DC and government operations : Cam
                  Kerry (<br>
                  &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a><br>
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              </div>
              &gt; &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/cameron-f-kerry</a>&gt;) 
              and Rick Boucher<br>
              <span>&gt; ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sidley.com/people/rick-boucher</a>
                ). Both men were extremely<br>
                &gt; impressive.  It is time to tap their talents. We
                need serious advice<br>
                &gt; in these areas from serious professionals.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; I would respectfully ask our Chairs and the full
                CCWG to consider<br>
                &gt; inviting either Rick or Cam to Dublin to meet with
                the CCWG early in<br>
                &gt; the week, preferably during the initial F2F. I
                think it's important<br>
                &gt; that everyone has a chance to question them. We
                need this type of<br>
                &gt; policy expertise from a politically  astute
                professional who owes a<br>
                &gt; duty of care  to us, no one else, and whose rolodex
                allows him or her<br>
                &gt; to reach out to those whose decisions will most
                impact our work.<br>
                &gt; We need to know what political reality is if we are
                to maximise our<br>
                &gt; potential as a very special and unique group
                dedicated to helping<br>
                &gt; create a truly open and accountable governance
                mechanism for this<br>
                &gt; small part of the networked world.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Thanks for considering.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Best,<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Ed Morris<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt;<br>
              </span>&gt;
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