<div dir="ltr">Great points,Kieren, especially No. 5. Thank you.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Chartier, Mike S <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike.s.chartier@intel.com" target="_blank">mike.s.chartier@intel.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It seems to me that the process agreed to, gave deference to the Community. The board should only reject a recommendation in the proposal by a finding of "it is not in the global public interest", and it had to do so with a 2/3rd majority. I'm guessing it was biased that way for a reason.<br>
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It may be the case that 11 or more board members will remain staunch in their determination that turning ICANN into a membership organization is not in the global public interest, and that would be fine.<br>
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But we've had a fair amount of consensus on changing to a membership through two consultations, so before that will is overturned I think it behooves us to continue the frank and open discussion about the second proposal, without any preconditions of elements off the table.<br>
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> On 28 Sep 2015, at 20:30, Nigel Roberts <<a href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net">nigel@channelisles.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> the Board are still against it and therefore it won't happen.<br>
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I don't accept such defeatism. We need to continue to work to improve our<br>
proposal to make it the best it can be: taking into account Board input, but<br>
not merely deferring to their preference. And then we must report. As Kieren<br>
puts it<br>
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"Tell that to Congress and then let ICANN Corporate explain why their<br>
approach is better."<br>
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If we do that we will have discharged our duty, to faithfully propose the<br>
means by which oversight of ICANN can be transitioned to the global<br>
multistakeholder community. If higher powers then decide that they don't<br>
actually like the idea of such transition when they see what it truly looks<br>
like, well that's on them. My guess is that they would be much more loath to<br>
reject the considered community view than we now suppose.<br>
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If, on the other hand, we submit a proposal we know to be flawed out of an<br>
untested fear that others demand such flaws, then posterity will condemn us,<br>
not them.<br>
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