<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks for your confidence, Kavouss :-)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thomas</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Autocratic Commander & Co-Chair<br><br><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">========</span></div><div><a href="http://rickert.net">rickert.net</a></div><div><br></div><div>PS - <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my cell. Please excuse typos and brevity.</span></div></div><div><br>Am 29.09.2015 um 16:56 schrieb Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Yes but I do not want to be drvant fait a compli .'any one free to informally and on private basis discuss any thing without any formal status. What they formally discuss is totally open to be rediscussed .</div><div>CCWG under the current charter is not authorised to create a closed group and discuss any issue behind the closed door.</div><div>Pls warn Thomas to be kind with every body and do not act like a commander </div><div>Kavouss <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 29 Sep 2015, at 14:50, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Dear Kavouss,<br>
<br>
At this point, the slides are a discussion starter and we look
forward to the group's feedback. <br>
<br>
Your message is heard loud and clear, especially on the required
openness and transparency. <br>
<br>
I would point out that the "coordination" mentioned in the slides is
not related in any way to any decision making, but rather on
updating about our progress. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Mathieu<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/09/2015 12:02, Kavouss Arasteh a
écrit :<br>
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<div>Dear Mathieu</div>
<div>Pls carefully read my earlier message ,</div>
<div>I hope you are not acting like your co-chair not listening
to the participants</div>
<div>I AM STRONGLY AGAINST CREATING A SMALL CLOSED GROUP to
discuss any issue what so ever.</div>
<div>The CCWG Chater is quite clear. The community has given a
rtasks to us to discuss openly freely and transparently.</div>
<div>THE CHARTER THEREFORE DOES NOT SPEAK OF ANY CLOSED GROUP.</div>
<div>If the CCWG and not Co-chair reach at a consensus that
another group shouléd be formed to discuss the issue Under
consideration with a view to find a way forward ,taking into
account all inputs ( ccwg second Prooposal , Public Comments,
Board,s proposal and the report of LA meeting) that groupm
MUST BE OPEN TO EVERY BODY AND WE SHOULD AGREE ON ITS CHAIR OR
CO-CHAIR.</div>
<div>tHE ICANN process MUST BE OPEN, INCLUSSIVE, TRANSPARENT AND
DEMOCRATIC.</div>
<div>Pls kindly be careful and advoid creating a hiden/ closed
cgroup </div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Kavouss </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-29 11:50 GMT+02:00 Mathieu
Weill <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>></span>:<br>
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Robin,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your quick feedback. I try to clarify below.<span><br>
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Le 29/09/2015 00:10, Robin Gross a écrit :<br>
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Thanks, Mathieu, for this helpful proposal. I've got a
couple questions for clarifications about some
statements on the slides.<br>
<br>
1. On slide 7, the last one, on point 2 it says "Ensure
that Board briefings on CCWG are (also) provided by CCWG
co-chairs". Does this mean those briefings will be
provided to CCWG members via the co-chairs? Or was the
"by" meant to be a "to" in that statement (or something
else)? It wasn't quite clear to me.<br>
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This sentence is probably confusing. It might be expressed
more clearly in the correspondence to Steve Crocker :<br>
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0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">3.
At the same time, we reiterate our proposal to provide,
as co-chairs, regular Board briefings during the Board
meetings dedicated to Accountability, alongside the
briefings provided by the President and staff. We would
also welcome the opportunity to review the briefing
materials received by Board members, and would understand
if that was subject to a non disclosure agreement. <br>
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So it was related to the briefings *of* the Board *by* CCWG.<br>
<br>
I hope this clarifies ?<span><br>
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<br>
2. Also on slide 7, point 4 on the substantive work of
the sub-teams (sub-part 2) "coordination by new small
group (SO/AC reps, Board, Lawyers) to limit friction, no
decision-making". Presumably this means the SO/AC reps
appointed to CCWG. But which "board" members and which
"lawyers" are proposed to coordinate the sub-teams in
this new small group?<br>
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That is a good topic for discussion. At this point, this had
been drawn from Ira Magaziner's suggestion to coordinate
more closely within the leadership of the various groups.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Mathieu<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
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Thanks much!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Robin<br>
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On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Mathieu Weill wrote:<br>
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Colleagues,<br>
<br>
In anticipation of a discussion during our meeting
tomorrow, please find attached a set of slides to
suggest a way forward, for the group's consideration.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your feedbacks.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Thomas, Leon & Mathieu<br>
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